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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012 4:51 pm 
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Another one that I have heard and wondering if it is Béarlachas or not.

'Bhí mé gearr'; meaning 'I was close'.

I nearly had it, I was close.
I know you can say things like, 'bhí sé beagnach agam'. I am wondering if 'bhí mé gearr' is acceptable or not.

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I've got to say that it seems totally wrong to me. Gearr means short, as an adjective. Perhaps Bhí mé gar would be nearer the mark.


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Could I have heard a mispronounced, 'bhí mé gar', but I've never heard 'gar' without 'do'. It was from a Gaelscoil student and am suspicious to put it mildly about some of the expressions that come from there....

Unfortunately, I often can't tell the difference between what really is Béárlachas and what isn't. Sometimes I avoid expressions due to misplaced suspicions. I'm still trying to tell my head that 'carr' is better than 'gluaisteán', but my head isn't listening....

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"bhí mé gar" sounds odd by itself, you need to add the "dó" like Scooby said.

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I'm still trying to tell my head that 'carr' is better than 'gluaisteán', but my head isn't listening....


Carr is a Celtic word that has been borrowed later by English.
One evidence: in Breton (that hasn't been influenced by English, simply because it is in Western France), we also say "karr"... They all come from the Old Celtic word karsos (or something like that).
It's not a Béarlachas at all, in the contrary, it's a "Ceilteachas" in the English language :) .

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Lughaidh wrote:
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I'm still trying to tell my head that 'carr' is better than 'gluaisteán', but my head isn't listening....


Carr is a Celtic word that has been borrowed later by English.
One evidence: in Breton (that hasn't been influenced by English, simply because it is in Western France), we also say "karr"... They all come from the Old Celtic word karsos (or something like that).
It's not a Béarlachas at all, in the contrary, it's a "Ceilteachas" in the English language :) .


You see I know this as it has been brought up several times before. The problem is that I programmed myself (wrongly) to use gluasteáin as I presumed (wrongly) that carr came from car and not the other way around. I have been trying to make myself carr since I realised this, but I'm finding it difficult. God only knows what else I'm avoiding when I shouldn't be.

I have an idea for a thread, but it could be a long one. Béarlachas or not? People could add their questions and hopefully well-informed answers. My only fear is that I might crash the whole site... :pages:

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Scooby wrote:
I've got to say that it seems totally wrong to me. Gearr means short, as an adjective. Perhaps Bhí mé gar would be nearer the mark.


Bhí mé gar dó! :)

I think the 'dó' is necessary to finish it.

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Can we say Ní raibh mé i bhfad uaidh "I wasn't far off it", too? Or not?

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Breandán wrote:
Can we say Ní raibh mé i bhfad uaidh "I wasn't far off it", too? Or not?



Yes. Probably better really.

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