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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012 2:52 am 
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Errigal wrote:
Breandán wrote:
‘S triallfaidh mé ar Albain mar ar chaith mé tús mo shaoil,
I will travel to Scotland as I spent the neginning of my life > where I spent...

:good: :GRMA: (When I read it at first I translated it that way in my head, i.e., "where", but then when I translated it in writing I got bogged down in the words as usual ...)

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I'm going to blame every headache I get from now on on Dialects! :darklaugh: I also translated it as "she would wait." :yes:

:LOL: The fact is dialects exist, especially in songs. We are just lucky there are enough enthusiasts in each dialect here to unlock some of the puzzles.

Thanks to Lughaidh also for that explanation. :reading:

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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012 3:15 am 
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They definitely exist, but right now, at this stage for me, it's hard to differentiate between them, so it just gets very confusing! I think I like Connemara, because that's a pretty word, but I also like Ulster :S So, I'm going to use a mix of them and make a whole NEW Dialect!!! Yayy!!! ;)


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012 3:18 am 
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Annabeth wrote:
They definitely exist, but right now, at this stage for me, it's hard to differentiate between them, so it just gets very confusing! I think I like Connemara, because that's a pretty word, but I also like Ulster :S So, I'm going to use a mix of them and make a whole NEW Dialect!!! Yayy!!! ;)


You'll be in line with most learners, who tend to acquire a mixture of dialects.

It's all about communication, so being understood is the most important thing.

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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012 4:09 am 
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That is a very great point :) Still probably know more than half of Ireland :no:


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012 5:00 am 
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They definitely exist, but right now, at this stage for me, it's hard to differentiate between them, so it just gets very confusing! I think I like Connemara, because that's a pretty word, but I also like Ulster :S So, I'm going to use a mix of them and make a whole NEW Dialect!!! Yayy!!! ;)


aye and you'll sound strange to everybody. And maybe sometimes people won't understand you, because every dialect is a consistent system and if you mix these systems up it may be hard to understand, especially in pronunciation. Most of the time, a certain set of letters is pronounced in one way in one dialect, and maybe in another way in another dialect. If you mix up dialects, people may not recognize the word because they won't know what rules you're following. For instance in Gweedore people pronounce slender r's like y between vowels and at the end of words. If you do that in Munster in the middle of a sentence which is otherwise in Munster Irish, people won't understand you because they'll think you pronounce everything according to Munster Irish and so they won't understand what is /d'eju:/ (for example), it means "end" in Gweedore but it may mean something else, or nothing (I don't know all Munster words :) ), in Munster Irish. You see the problem.

To me, if you like several dialects, the best thing to do is to learn these dialects one after another. Once you have mastered more or less one of them, you can start learning another one (it'll be easy).

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It's all about communication, so being understood is the most important thing.


speak English then, it's easier :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2012 2:43 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Quote:It's all about communication, so being understood is the most important thing.

speak English then, it's easier


:ninja: :ninja:

Where's the popcorn? I'm here for the show.... or should that be showdown? :twisted:
One word worth mentioning - we are all on the same side here. We are just taking different routes to get there. And I happen to have got on a particularly slow train. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar 2012 12:14 am 
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Saoirse wrote:

Where's the popcorn? I'm here for the show.... or should that be showdown? :twisted:


Pardon? (Sorry, lol)

Saoirse wrote:
One word worth mentioning - we are all on the same side here. We are just taking different routes to get there. And I happen to have got on a particularly slow train. 8-)


:good: :yes:


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