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 Post subject: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 3:41 pm 
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Dia Dhaoibh :)

I have a few words (amongst many) that I am really wondering about because dictionaries haven't been of much help here, so if any one can help it would be awesome!

Ais
Ródheas
Modhúill
i gceart

And I know that bhfuil is used to form questions, but what does it actually mean? And raibh, now that I think of it! (I have some guesses, but they don't work in all context.)

Any help on any of these would be great!!

:GRMA:


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 3:59 pm 
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Annabeth wrote:
Dia Dhaoibh :)

I have a few words (amongst many) that I am really wondering about because dictionaries haven't been of much help here, so if any one can help it would be awesome!

Ais
Ródheas
Modhúill
i gceart

And I know that bhfuil is used to form questions, but what does it actually mean? And raibh, now that I think of it! (I have some guesses, but they don't work in all context.)

Any help on any of these would be great!!

:GRMA:

Im a beginer so please someone correct me if im wrong on any of these

Ais = back
ródheas = too nice or very nice
Modhúill = ??
i gceart = right (ceart is right this is just the eclipsed version one of them weird irish grammer rules :) )

what Bhfuil means depends on the context of the question.

An bhfuil mé? - Am I?
An bhfuil tú? - Are you?
An bhfuil sé? - Is he?
An bhfuil sí? - Is she?
An bhfuilimid?/ bhfuil muid? - Are we?
An bhfuil sibh? - Are you(plural)?
An bhfuil siad? - Are they?

sometimes things are just done differently in irish and would have no direct translation to english on why it is done that way as my teacher would say accept it and it will give you less headaches :)


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 4:45 pm 
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Haha! Very good advice, there. I'll remember that. Go raibh maith agat. I never consider that ródheas could be like "ró" and "deas" :facepalm:


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 4:53 pm 
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An cheapann tu (is that right?) modhúill could be a mix of "mo" and "dúil"?

The line is from a song and it is:

Do hata is do ghúna, do éadan ródheas modhúil

Oh, and I just remembered a few words I forgot (haha) from earlier:

Théimse
Rétithe

:GRMA:


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 8:43 pm 
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Annabeth wrote:
Dia Dhaoibh :)

I have a few words (amongst many) that I am really wondering about because dictionaries haven't been of much help here, so if any one can help it would be awesome!

Ais
Ródheas
Modhúill
i gceart

And I know that bhfuil is used to form questions, but what does it actually mean? And raibh, now that I think of it! (I have some guesses, but they don't work in all context.)

Any help on any of these would be great!!

:GRMA:

Dia's Muire dhuit, a Anabeth.

ar ais is "back"
ródheas is "too nice" but probably just means "very nice" in an older context.
modhúil is "mild, gentle, modest"
i gceart can be "right" or "well" or "properly"
téimse "I'll go"
réitithe is the past participle of "réitigh". We'd probably have to see the context to give you a meaning for it, as réitigh has many meanings.

Tá/níl is a mixture of two verbs, and fuil. Níl comes from ní fhuil => ní 'uil => níl. The question form of fuil is an bhfuil, dependant form go bhfuil/nach bhfuil, etc.

Similarly, the past tense bhí/ní raibh is a also mixture of two verbs bhí and raibh.

Hope that makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 9:09 pm 
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It's getting closer to making sense... :)

And the context, actually, is all from one verse, which is:

Nuair a théimse fhéin ar mhargadh gan beann agam ar aon ar
Mo chapall is mo chóiste réitithe amach i gceart
Do hata is do gúna, do éadan ródheas modhúil
Ag gáiri liom go taithneamhach, 'do shuí le m'ais


:GRMA: < I love this thing. :rofl:


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 9:15 pm 
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Annabeth wrote:
< I love this thing


I love that smilie too. :GRMA:

Breandán made it. In fact it must be time for a new addition as Gaeilge. He surely has more time on his hands now that his travel visa does not allow him to travel to all destinations these days... :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 9:25 pm 
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Nuair a théimse fhéin ar mhargadh gan beann agam ar aon fhear
Mo chapall is mo chóiste réitithe amach i gceart
Do hata is do gúna, d'éadan ródheas modhúil
Ag gáiri liom go taithneamhach, 'do shuí le m'ais


When I myself go to market unbeholden to any man
My horse and my coach decked out properly
Your hat and your dress and your lovely gentle face
Smiling at me pleasantly, you sitting by my side.

There's something wrong with the Irish in the first line. This is a guess at fixing it.

Here ais is "side".

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012 12:34 am 
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Saoirse wrote:
He surely has more time on his hands now that his travel visa does not allow him to travel to all destinations these days... :mrgreen:


:S ?

And okay, yes. That first line is confusing now that I know what the rest means... Thanks for the suggestion!

Would you know what the following lines are:

Grá mo chroí mo chuilín, Sláinte geall mo chuilín

Rachaidh mé thar farraige nuair a chaithfear ráithe an gheimridh
‘S triallfaidh mé ar Albain mar ar chaith mé tús mo shaoil,
Beidh ainnirín in éindí liom le dhul i mbun an tsaoil ann
Gheall sí fhéin go dtiocfadh sí ‘s go bhfanóidh sí liom.


:GRMA: :GRMA: :GRMA: :GRMA: (Do I have to do that 1000 times to specify "Go raibh mííle maith agat? :LOL: )


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 Post subject: Re: A few words!
PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012 12:37 am 
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Bhuel! Would you look at that! Na liricí DO say "ar aon fhear". :hide: Oups. 8O I'm just seeing things all wrong! :no: Thanks for bringing my attention on it!


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