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Saoirse
PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2012 10:36 pm 
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I found out is what I am looking for.

'Fuair mé amach' sounds very much like Béarlachas.

What is the most natural way to say, 'I found something out'?

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Saoirse wrote:
I found out is what I am looking for.

'Fuair mé amach' sounds very much like Béarlachas.

What is the most natural way to say, 'I found something out'?

Saoirse.


Perhaps...

D'fhoghlaim mé I learned

Bhraith mé I discovered

Chuala mé I heard

Something along those lines.

Wait for more, definitely.

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Lughaidh
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In Gaeltacht Irish, "fáil amach" means "to go out", if I remember well.

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Sorry to disappoint you, folks, but faigh amach "to find out" is an expression that has been in Irish for a long time. It's in Dinneen.

If it's Béarlachas, it is well-established Béarlachas.

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Breandán wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you, folks, but faigh amach "to find out" is an expression that has been in Irish for a long time. It's in Dinneen.

If it's Béarlachas, it is well-established Béarlachas.


Agree - and in terms of "what is the most natural way to say it", I'd reckon that it ("fuair mé amach") has been the "natural" way to many native speakers for quite a while.
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fuair mé amach is what I use all the time. What's the logic behind this being used to mean "to go out" Lughaidh?
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Lughaidh
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fuair mé amach is what I use all the time. What's the logic behind this being used to mean "to go out" Lughaidh?


no logic for an English speaker anyway, but idioms aren't always logical :mrgreen:
To me English "find out" isn't logical either because there's no real motion "out" of anything :darklaugh:

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Lughaidh wrote:
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fuair mé amach is what I use all the time. What's the logic behind this being used to mean "to go out" Lughaidh?


no logic for an English speaker anyway, but idioms aren't always logical :mrgreen:
To me English "find out" isn't logical either because there's no real motion "out" of anything :darklaugh:


Chuala mé cailín ó Thoraí uair amháin agus í ag caint faoi fhilleadh ar an oileán. An chaoi ba nádúrtha dise lena rá ná "nuair a fuair mé back..."
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Aisteach, bhí aithne agam ar dhaoiní óga as Toraigh agus ba dh'é a gcuid Béarla a bhí faoi thionchar na Gaeilge. Béarla aisteach a bhí acu.
Tá sé aisteach nár úsáid sí sin "nuair a chuaigh mé ar aist", nó is rud iontach coiteanta simplí é...

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Bríd Mhór
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Merryploughbhoy wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you, folks, but faigh amach "to find out" is an expression that has been in Irish for a long time. It's in Dinneen.

If it's Béarlachas, it is well-established Béarlachas.


Agree - and in terms of "what is the most natural way to say it", I'd reckon that it ("fuair mé amach") has been the "natural" way to many native speakers for quite a while.


Mise freisin.

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Aisteach, bhí aithne agam ar dhaoiní óga as Toraigh agus ba dh'é a gcuid Béarla a bhí faoi thionchar na Gaeilge. Béarla aisteach a bhí acu.
Tá sé aisteach nár úsáid sí sin "nuair a chuaigh mé ar aist", nó is rud iontach coiteanta simplí é...


Oddly "back" is used widely in Connamara too. Although you'd think "ar ais" would be just as simple to say.

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