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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2012 9:17 pm 
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This resource for learners sounds really good.

http://nuachtlitreacha.ranganna.com/New ... 23&lang=en

The Irish language organisation COGG (An Chomhairle um Oideachas Gaeltachta agus Gaelscolaíochta) recently launched a new iTunes U channel which contains a collection of audio and visual material that will be a very useful resource for Irish speakers, and for primary school teachers in particular.

The material on iTunes U COGG was chosen carefully from the RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta Archive and from the National University of Ireland, Galway Archive, agus there is a particular emphasis on helping users acquire useful idiomatic phrases. Although the channel is aimed primarily at pupils in classes 5 and 6 in Gaeltacht and all-Irish schools, the material will also be useful for learners of Irish at other levels. The resources available on the channel include songs, poems, stories and history items, and the main dialects of Irish can be heard.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2012 9:32 pm 
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Another cool technological thing I've recently discovered: Learn Irish (a project of Oideas Gael) has released an app of Irish conversations spoken by native Ulster Irish speakers that you can download and listen to on either iPod or Android:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/enjoy-irish ... EnjoyIrish

I downloaded it so I could try it out and maybe show it to some learners I know locally. It's really cool!

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 11:11 am 
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Redwolf wrote:
Another cool technological thing I've recently discovered: Learn Irish (a project of Oideas Gael) has released an app of Irish conversations spoken by native Ulster Irish speakers that you can download and listen to on either iPod or Android:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/enjoy-irish ... EnjoyIrish

I downloaded it so I could try it out and maybe show it to some learners I know locally. It's really cool!

Redwolf

Yes, 'tis. Here's a sample:

http://www.enjoyirish.ie/Sampla.html#acnhor

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Do people really say "cad é is ainm duit?" somewhere? Looks like the Munster expression "cad is ainm duit" with "cad é" added in order to make it look Ulster... but as far as I know, "what's your name" is "c'ainm atá ort" in Ulster...

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2012 12:44 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Do people really say "cad é is ainm duit?" somewhere? Looks like the Munster expression "cad is ainm duit" with "cad é" added in order to make it look Ulster... but as far as I know, "what's your name" is "c'ainm atá ort" in Ulster...

Ah, yes, I remember "Now You're Talking" had "c'ainm atá ort?". :yes:

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Lughaidh wrote:
Do people really say "cad é is ainm duit?" somewhere? Looks like the Munster expression "cad is ainm duit" with "cad é" added in order to make it look Ulster... but as far as I know, "what's your name" is "c'ainm atá ort" in Ulster...


I've heard both from native speakers, both at our DSG here and in Donegal. I suspect that, like many things with a living language, various forms are making their way into all of the Gaeltachtaí.

BTW, the developer of the program is a native speaker, as are the speakers hired to do the recordings, as is the director of the organization that is promoting it. So I'm quite comfortable with their offerings.

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"cad é is ainm duit?" -
It wouldn't be my way of saying it, but I can't say it's wrong either as I'm not familiar with the dialect.

"Cad é" , isn't that the same as "Goide" in Donegal??


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Bríd Mhór wrote:

"Cad é" , isn't that the same as "Goide" in Donegal??




Yes...it's often spelled that way as well, though modern books tend to standardize it to "cad é."

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I think the variations I've come across in the North are C'ainm atá ort? and Cad é an t-ainm atá ort?.

Cad is ainm duit? is pretty much a Munsterism that gets taught in schools.

That doesn't mean Cad é is ainm duit? doesn't exist but it does feel a bit contrived by comparison.

Perhaps it's another case of the standard encroaching, especially if it certain phrases are required by the Department of Education.

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I think the variations I've come across in the North are C'ainm atá ort? and Cad é an t-ainm atá ort?.


The latter of those morphed in Scottish Gaelic into Dè an t-ainm a th'ort?

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