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Saoirse · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 5:14 pm

Lughaidh wrote:

Urban Irish: jane too canch gwaylga? (ie. do-you-speak-irish)

Ouch!

Pegi · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 5:45 pm

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Wyt chi'n siarad Gwyddeleg?

Better to get Peggi to confirm though. Or Kevin.

Really good, Bríd! One small correction: You've mixed the formal pronoun with the informal verb. Since we don't know the person, you're right that the formal is the pronoun. So:

Very formal: Ydych chi'n siarad Gwyddeleg?
If you were speaking you'd say: Dych chi'n siarad Gwyddeleg?

Pegi · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 5:50 pm

franc 91 wrote:

It would be nice if Lughaidh/Loic could give us this in the different dialects of Breton - as I am sure he would be proud to show his credentials as a native speaker of Vannetais and as for Welsh I'm sure there must be a slight nuance between North and South, n'est-ce pas Peggi? Even Cornish has (or did have, up until recently) three different spellings, I seem to remember. Vive la différence! (and then there's Hibernian English and Ulster Scots and Scots and Glaswegian and Morningside (the pride of Miss Brodie et al) and Dublin Urban Gaelspeak and.......srl srl srl)

There can be but not in this particular case. It's the same in both main dialects. But there is a formal and informal way to speak and a literary form (extremely formal) to write. I forgot to give the literary form in my other post:

Yr ydych yn siarad Gweddeleg.

You don't need the pronoun when writing in literary Welsh as the verb ending tells you who it is.

Peggi

Pegi · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 5:53 pm

Lughaidh wrote:

Do you want to translate "Do you speak Irish?" or "Do you speak...."+the name of each language (ie. do you speak Welsh in Welsh, do you speak Breton in Breton etc) ?

Below I guessed you wanted the latter

Irish (U): An bhfuil Gaeilg agad?
Irish (M): An bhfuil Gaelainn agut?
Irish (C): An bhfuil Gaeilge 'ad?
Scottish: A bheil Gàidhlig agad? or Am beil Gàidhlig aighead? (Lewis), Am bruidhinn thu Gàidhlig? (Lewis)
Manx: Vel Gaelg ayd?
Welsh (South): Wyt ti'n siarad Cymraeg?
Cornish: A wodhesta kewsel Kernewek?
Breton: C'hwi a gaoja brezhoneg? (there are many other ways to say it since there are many dialects)

Wyt ti'n siarad Gweddeleg? - this would be the informal way to say it. Sorry for all the posts, guys, I don't see an option to edit a post once posted.

Saoirse · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 5:58 pm

Pegi wrote:

Sorry for all the posts, guys, I don't see an option to edit a post once posted.

Click back to see your post and there should be a pink rectangle 'Edit' button on the bottom right corner of the screen near the 'Quote' rectangle. That should allow you to edit your posts.

Actually, you may need to have accumulated 10 posts before you can do it; there seem to be a few things that require you to prove your loyalty before you can do stuff! :mrgreen:

Breandán · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:03 pm

Sorry, Pegi. I forgot to bump you through the "trial period" earlier, so you still had some of the limitations we use to control newbies and spammers. You should now be able to go back and edit those posts (and add a signature, etc.). :wave:

(Anyone else from IGTF that finds themeselves in the same situation, please PM a mod and we'll bump you through.)

Saoirse · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:14 pm

Breandán wrote:

Anyone else from IGTF that finds themeselves in the same situation, please PM a mod and we'll bump you through.)

May the road rise before you; may the wind be always at your back and may you be inundated with IGTF friends! :party:

Pegi · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:50 pm

Breandán wrote:

Sorry, Pegi. I forgot to bump you through the "trial period" earlier, so you still had some of the limitations we use to control newbies and spammers. You should now be able to go back and edit those posts (and add a signature, etc.). :wave:

(Anyone else from IGTF that finds themeselves in the same situation, please PM a mod and we'll bump you through.)

Diolch yn fawr/GRMA Breandán. Dw i'n gwerthfawrogi dy gymorth./I appreciate your help. Pegi

Breandán · **Posted:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 7:05 pm

Pegi wrote:

Diolch yn fawr/GRMA Breandán. Dw i'n gwerthfawrogi dy gymorth./I appreciate your help. Pegi

Croeso i chi, Pegi. Ac, croeso yma. (Tá fáilte romhat, Pegi. Agus tá fáilte romhat anseo.)

Saoirse wrote:

... and may you be inundated with IGTF friends! :party:

And many thanks for your efforts, Saoirse, in inviting them all over. :wave:

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