Dia 's Muire dhaoibh go léir, agus go roibh maith agaibh roim ré

I was recently reviewing volume one of LASID and found some things that I thought were interesting and worth noting.

The first thing that was somewhat confusing to me was map 125 (lenited verbal noun form of feiscint), in which both speakers from Corca Dhuibhne provide variations of the form d'fheiscint. I found this slightly baffling, as I would have expected to see something like a' feiscint or aig feiscint. I have, however, heard of this construction (i.e. the past participle form of the verbal noun used instead of the regular form of aig + verbal noun starting with a vowel sound) with the verb iarr, i.e. a d'iarraidh instead of aig iarraidh. Does anyone else know how extensive this form is used with other verbal nouns? On the other hand, the speakers might just be deriving this form from a different verbal noun structure (e.g. 'á d'iarraidh(?) or 'á dh'iarraidh) instead of the simple one that most are used too in English(i.e. 'is seeing').

The second thing I wanted to ask about is the pronunciation of words like tairbh and ingne (plural forms of tarbh and iongna). According to LASID, these are pronounced as if they were spelled taraí (map 3) and ing(a)naí (map 136, but this pronunciation is only used by speaker 20 from Dún Chaoin). For a while I just thought that this was how certain words like this were pronounced, but I recently found a video by the creator (known online as) An Loingseach, who is a native speaker from Kerry
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pPBxA2-RxA&t=2560s , about 34~35 min in) where he pronounces tairbh exactly as it is spelled (though with an epenthetic vowel, which he talks about). Does anybody know if this is just a slight variation that doesn't have much dialectal variation of importance, or if he's just trying to maintain some historical feature, as he often does?

As always, sorry for the massive brain dump, I usually just try to purge all of my questions at once so I'm not constantly buggering you all. Also, last thing, could anyone please correct the greeting at the beginning, I tried to carry the meaning of 'thanks in advance', but I don't know if roim ré is correct in that context.

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I'm an intermediate speaker of the Corca Dhuibhne dialect of Irish and also have knowledge on the old spelling
Soir gaċ síar, fé ḋeireaḋ thíar

I’d say it is of course aig feiscint/aig fiscint but on page 125 the lenited version alone was asked for.

Tá sé aig feiscint an fhir
Tá sé lé feiscint
but:
Is maith liom é a dh’fheiscint

The last one is a doubled do (The particle a is a shortened version of do):
é do dh'fheiscint -> é a dh’fheiscint -> é dh’fheiscint (a is silent)
or still a single do but lenited:
é d'fheiscint -> é dh'fheiscint

I can’t explain forms like
Tá sé á dh’fheiscint.

But almost all forms of lenited fheiscint have a dh’ prefixed to them.



The opposite is true acc. to LASID
It is tar(´)ıv´/tır´ıv´ in Connacht but tari: in Munster (Kerry, West Cork)
Whysoever

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I'm an intermediate speaker of the Corca Dhuibhne dialect of Irish and also have knowledge on the old spelling
Soir gaċ síar, fé ḋeireaḋ thíar

But Learning Irish has taraí and all authors of Muskerry Irish have tairbh...

Is there some sort of rule to tell what words are to become pronounced in such a way?

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I'm an intermediate speaker of the Corca Dhuibhne dialect of Irish and also have knowledge on the old spelling
Soir gaċ síar, fé ḋeireaḋ thíar

Má's é an Loingseaċ go ḃfuilir ag tagairt dó, ní'lim ró-ḋeiṁniġṫeaċ gur cainnteoir dúṫċais gur b'eaḋ é. Cá h-áit gur ṫáinís ar an eolas san air? An duḃairt sé féin i gceann dá físeánaiḃ gur ó'n nGaeḋealtaċt dó, nó b'ḟéidir gur ḋeinis-se talaṁ slán de le féaċaint ar a ċuid físeán, cé náċ cainnteoir dúṫċais i n-aon ċor é féin?

Deirim rud leat - is go h-aindeis a laḃrann sé Béarla - tá fuaimniuġaḋ go dona aige, go díreaċ mar a ḃeaḋ ag foġlamṫóir nó ag duine ná beaḋ aon taiṫiġe aige ar an mBéarla a laḃairt. Aċt 'sé rud a riṫeann liom-sa ná beaḋ laḃairt an Ḃéarla 'sa ċeart ag aon duine i gCiarraiḋe, dá mbaḋ Béarlóirí iad nó daoine do rugaḋ agus do tógaḋ 'sa ċuid san Ciarraiḋe go ḃfuil láṁ i n-uaċtar ag an mBéarla ann. Do ḃí Ciarraiḋe 'n-a Ġaeḋealtaċt i ḃfad níos déanaiġe ná aon ċonntae eile 'sa Ṁuṁain - agus fágann san go ḃfuil an rian san ar an mBéarla aṫá acu dá laḃairt ar fuaid na conntae sin - agus b'ḟéidir gur b'ṡin é cúis go ḃfuil muinntir na h-Éireann go dtí an lá 'ndiu ag magaḋ fé sna Ciarraiḋeaċaiḃ le saġas Kerryman jokes.


Tá a lán eolais aige, gan daḃt, aċt ní ró-eagruiġṫe a ḃíd a smaointe, agus cialluiġeann san go ndeineann praiseaċ uaṫḃásaċ de gaċ ceann dá ṗod-ċraoltaíḃ...

I think you have to pick up exceptions as you go, while acknowledging that there are many words where more than one plural would be accepted.

Ní dóiġ liom-sa go m-bíon̄ droċ-Ḃę́rla 'á laḃairt aige, aċ' b' ḟéidir ná fuil a' ceart agam toisc go ḃ-fuil Bę́rla agam mar mo chéad teanga agus as minic 'o bhím 'á scaoilęḋ ṫaram, 'n uair ná fuilim aig éisteacht lé n-a chuid Béarla aċ' a' níḋ atá 'á ráḋ aige in san teanga. B' ḟéidir go m-bíon̄ sé a' laḃairt na Gaoiḋęlain̄e oir a' nós san mar męsan̄ sé go ḃ-fuil a' cineál Bę́rla san nídh 's cosamhail leis a' n-Gaoiḋęlain̄ go-r b' ḟęr̄ leis. Aontaiġim leat ná fuil sé ró-ęgraiġṫe, agus as dócha go m-bíon̄ sé ana-ċúramaċ (gnóṫaċ).



That makes sense. Thank you for your vast help with all of this. I apologize for my probable multitude of errors in the Irish section of this message, and again corrections are welcomed and appreciated.

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I'm an intermediate speaker of the Corca Dhuibhne dialect of Irish and also have knowledge on the old spelling
Soir gaċ síar, fé ḋeireaḋ thíar

A bit confusing.
In "Gaeilge Chorca Dhuibhne" it is /tar´iv´/ (tairbh) in genitive singular but /ta'ri:/ (taraí) in plural.



The rule is – as far as I know:
-ibh/-imh is pronounced /ıv´/ in Munster but /ə/ in South Connacht, /i:/ in North Connacht.
-ibhe/-imhe is pronounced /i:/ in Munster but /ıv´ə/ in Connacht.