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 Post subject: TAT: "Erin go bragh"
PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 5:24 pm 
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I would like to add to an existing tattoo to make it larger. I am thinking of "Eiriin go Brach" . I got this spelling on the other site and it will work but I want to know about the formation of the letters. The following link shows an example http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/fo ... /r/2a69p7.. Would this be correct? Should it have any capitalized letters or the marking above the letters? Thank you for any help given.


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 5:48 pm 
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SeamusAZ wrote:
I would like to add to an existing tattoo to make it larger. I am thinking of "Eiriin go Brach" . I got this spelling on the other site and it will work but I want to know about the formation of the letters. The following link shows an example http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/fo ... /r/2a69p7.. Would this be correct? Should it have any capitalized letters or the marking above the letters? Thank you for any help given.


For some reason that link doesn't seem to be working. Anyway, the spelling you have written has a number of issues. As far as I know, it should be 'go brách' (fada on the a). Also the first word is definitely incorrect. I think it is usually 'Éire' but I may have heard 'Éirinn' also; I don't understand the grammar of that option but there's nothing new there!

Wait for more informed opinion than mine but what you have is certainly not safe to go with.

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 Post subject: Re: tat
PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 5:52 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
SeamusAZ wrote:
I would like to add to an existing tattoo to make it larger. I am thinking of "Eiriin go Brach" . I got this spelling on the other site and it will work but I want to know about the formation of the letters. The following link shows an example http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/fo ... /r/2a69p7.. Would this be correct? Should it have any capitalized letters or the marking above the letters? Thank you for any help given.


For some reason that link doesn't seem to be working. Anyway, the spelling you have written has a number of issues. As far as I know, it should be 'go brách' (fada on the a). Also the first word is definitely incorrect. I think it is usually 'Éire' but I may have heard 'Éirinn' also; I don't understand the grammar of that option but there's nothing new there!

Wait for more informed opinion than mine but what you have is certainly not safe to go with.



Link is not working for me either. I would suggest Éire go brách ... I don't believe Éirinn is correct. Wait for confirmation, please.

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 6:21 pm 
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Wow, I was ready to go with that. Here is what I found on the other site.
"What does Erin go Bragh mean?
The popular phrases "Erin go Bragh" or "Erin go Braugh" mean Ireland forever. It's the anglicised version of the Gaelic phrase which would be known to some Irish Americans (although its English spelling is quite meaningless). The correct spelling is "Éirinn go Brách"

The link did not work and I am not proficient enough on the computer to fix it. When I copy it comes back with extra periods inserted.. Should I believe the above spelling or not. Could someone go to the other site and check out the spelling and Font site?? Thanks again..


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 6:28 pm 
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Either is correct Éire go brách is more popular twould seem

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 8:03 pm 
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Technically, Éirinn would be incorrect grammatically, since it is the dative form of the word Éire being used where the nominative form ought to be used, but it has been pointed out before (on the forum we used to use) that it is widely used anyway in this phrase, especially in Ulster, so one can call it correct dialectically.

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 9:22 pm 
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All in all, I think it seems to be safest to go with 'Éire go brách'. It is correct and you do not need to worry about debates about dialect. Note the accents over the E and a.

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In some dialects, the dative form "Éirinn" is also used for the nominative, so Éirinn go Brách is fine, even though Éire go Brách would be the standard.

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: "Erin go bragh"
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SeamusAZ, as Redwolf says Éirinn is dialect and Éire is standard. I don't know if it is also used in other dialects but Éirinn is definitely used in Connemara (Connacht). If you have any connections to that region, then Éirinn is an option, otherwise it is safer to stick with Éire (which wouldn't be wrong in either case.)

Let us know which you decide.

I can do the font for you, but I will need a couple of hours.

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: "Erin go bragh"
PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011 5:47 am 
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Breandán, Éirinn it will be. Your explanation made up my mind. I do have very strong connections to the Connacht area as my father was born in the Ennistymon area near Kilfenora. I still have relatives there and have visited often. I see you are in Australia, and I have relatives there also that originally came from the same area, my fathers brother James, whom I am named after.

Very interested in you doing the font, Let me know how we handle it.

Regards, Seamus


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