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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jan 2016 7:27 pm 
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Good morning again,
first of all I hope i wrote the subject good enough, I tried to follow the lines the best I could.
Secondly, the translation lol
As I wrote in my presentation I'm just back from one of many travels to Irelan. I just love, this country, can't stop going there.
This time I finally chose part of my new tattoo, which is the famous Beckett quotation "ever tried, ever failed. No matter. Try again, fail again, fail better".
I've looked everywhere for an irish version of Worstward Ho, but either it doesn't exist or I didn't find... either way, I would like to translate this famous quotation in irish.
I tought about modern irish since Beckett was born in XX° century, but here is another question... since I would like to write that with Ogham alphabet (which usually worked along with old irish) wich version do you think I should use? I'm still for modern one, but I'm into your hands, soooo...
Aaaaaanyway, if you could devide the frase as following I would be really grateful to you all.
"Ever tried, ever failed"
"No matter"
"Try again"
"Fail again, fail better"
Thank you in advance for your attention and help,
Luca


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PostPosted: Thu 18 Feb 2016 7:07 pm 
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luca.ferrua wrote:
Good morning again,
first of all I hope i wrote the subject good enough, I tried to follow the lines the best I could.
Secondly, the translation lol
As I wrote in my presentation I'm just back from one of many travels to Irelan. I just love, this country, can't stop going there.
This time I finally chose part of my new tattoo, which is the famous Beckett quotation "ever tried, ever failed. No matter. Try again, fail again, fail better".
I've looked everywhere for an irish version of Worstward Ho, but either it doesn't exist or I didn't find... either way, I would like to translate this famous quotation in irish.
I tought about modern irish since Beckett was born in XX° century, but here is another question... since I would like to write that with Ogham alphabet (which usually worked along with old irish) wich version do you think I should use? I'm still for modern one, but I'm into your hands, soooo...
Aaaaaanyway, if you could devide the frase as following I would be really grateful to you all.
"Ever tried, ever failed"
"No matter"
"Try again"
"Fail again, fail better"
Thank you in advance for your attention and help,
Luca


No one?


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PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb 2016 12:08 pm 
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luca.ferrua wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
Good morning again,
first of all I hope i wrote the subject good enough, I tried to follow the lines the best I could.
Secondly, the translation lol
As I wrote in my presentation I'm just back from one of many travels to Irelan. I just love, this country, can't stop going there.
This time I finally chose part of my new tattoo, which is the famous Beckett quotation "ever tried, ever failed. No matter. Try again, fail again, fail better".
I've looked everywhere for an irish version of Worstward Ho, but either it doesn't exist or I didn't find... either way, I would like to translate this famous quotation in irish.
I tought about modern irish since Beckett was born in XX° century, but here is another question... since I would like to write that with Ogham alphabet (which usually worked along with old irish) wich version do you think I should use? I'm still for modern one, but I'm into your hands, soooo...
Aaaaaanyway, if you could devide the frase as following I would be really grateful to you all.
"Ever tried, ever failed"
"No matter"
"Try again"
"Fail again, fail better"
Thank you in advance for your attention and help,
Luca


No one?


In the spirit of Beckett, who incidentally did not speak Irish,

bithiarraidh, biteip
ainchás
athiarraidh
aiteip, sártheip


Wait for other opinions or Godot.


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2016 4:58 pm 
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MacBoo wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
Good morning again,
first of all I hope i wrote the subject good enough, I tried to follow the lines the best I could.
Secondly, the translation lol
As I wrote in my presentation I'm just back from one of many travels to Irelan. I just love, this country, can't stop going there.
This time I finally chose part of my new tattoo, which is the famous Beckett quotation "ever tried, ever failed. No matter. Try again, fail again, fail better".
I've looked everywhere for an irish version of Worstward Ho, but either it doesn't exist or I didn't find... either way, I would like to translate this famous quotation in irish.
I tought about modern irish since Beckett was born in XX° century, but here is another question... since I would like to write that with Ogham alphabet (which usually worked along with old irish) wich version do you think I should use? I'm still for modern one, but I'm into your hands, soooo...
Aaaaaanyway, if you could devide the frase as following I would be really grateful to you all.
"Ever tried, ever failed"
"No matter"
"Try again"
"Fail again, fail better"
Thank you in advance for your attention and help,
Luca


No one?


In the spirit of Beckett, who incidentally did not speak Irish,

bithiarraidh, biteip
ainchás
athiarraidh
aiteip, sártheip


Wait for other opinions or Godot.


Thanks for answering, hope I'll receive moretranslations to confront ^^
(I had no idea he didn't speak Irish by the way)


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jun 2016 10:09 am 
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No one else? :(
pleaseeeee!!


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jun 2016 10:21 am 
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luca.ferrua wrote:
MacBoo wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
Good morning again,
first of all I hope i wrote the subject good enough, I tried to follow the lines the best I could.
Secondly, the translation lol
As I wrote in my presentation I'm just back from one of many travels to Irelan. I just love, this country, can't stop going there.
This time I finally chose part of my new tattoo, which is the famous Beckett quotation "ever tried, ever failed. No matter. Try again, fail again, fail better".
I've looked everywhere for an irish version of Worstward Ho, but either it doesn't exist or I didn't find... either way, I would like to translate this famous quotation in irish.
I tought about modern irish since Beckett was born in XX° century, but here is another question... since I would like to write that with Ogham alphabet (which usually worked along with old irish) wich version do you think I should use? I'm still for modern one, but I'm into your hands, soooo...
Aaaaaanyway, if you could devide the frase as following I would be really grateful to you all.
"Ever tried, ever failed"
"No matter"
"Try again"
"Fail again, fail better"
Thank you in advance for your attention and help,
Luca


No one?


In the spirit of Beckett, who incidentally did not speak Irish,

bithiarraidh, biteip
ainchás
athiarraidh
aiteip, sártheip




I have never read Beckett but could you give a background context on the quotes you have given
de shíor ag iarraidh , de shíor ag teipeadh , cuma , teip ort arís , teipeadh níos fearr (measa)

Wait for other opinions or Godot.


Thanks for answering, hope I'll receive moretranslations to confront ^^
(I had no idea he didn't speak Irish by the way)


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jun 2016 10:49 am 
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micab wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
MacBoo wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
luca.ferrua wrote:
Good morning again,
first of all I hope i wrote the subject good enough, I tried to follow the lines the best I could.
Secondly, the translation lol
As I wrote in my presentation I'm just back from one of many travels to Irelan. I just love, this country, can't stop going there.
This time I finally chose part of my new tattoo, which is the famous Beckett quotation "ever tried, ever failed. No matter. Try again, fail again, fail better".
I've looked everywhere for an irish version of Worstward Ho, but either it doesn't exist or I didn't find... either way, I would like to translate this famous quotation in irish.
I tought about modern irish since Beckett was born in XX° century, but here is another question... since I would like to write that with Ogham alphabet (which usually worked along with old irish) wich version do you think I should use? I'm still for modern one, but I'm into your hands, soooo...
Aaaaaanyway, if you could devide the frase as following I would be really grateful to you all.
"Ever tried, ever failed"
"No matter"
"Try again"
"Fail again, fail better"
Thank you in advance for your attention and help,
Luca


No one?


In the spirit of Beckett, who incidentally did not speak Irish,

bithiarraidh, biteip
ainchás
athiarraidh
aiteip, sártheip




I have never read Beckett but could you give a background context on the quotes you have given
de shíor ag iarraidh , de shíor ag teipeadh , cuma , teip ort arís , teipeadh níos fearr (measa)

Wait for other opinions or Godot.


Thanks for answering, hope I'll receive moretranslations to confront ^^
(I had no idea he didn't speak Irish by the way)


Hi, thanks for answering!
What do you mean exactly with "background context"? In the novel Samuel Beckett deals with the absurd, continuous fight against intertia. It's a parody of life, an allegory of the word itself, shown as the worst possible but for that very reason stilll "worsenable" (does this world even exist?). This ridiculousness makes this a stubborn and continuous research of something unknown intangible and unreachable. Like in King Lear "And worse I may be yet: the worst is not, So long as we can say, This is the worst"... It's a prose actually, there is really no plot so I cant actually "make" a context...
It should sound like something a warrior would say... well, maybe a literate, hipster one! lol
Any help?
Thanks,
Luca


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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jun 2016 7:42 pm 
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Some of what you asked for:

Is cuma "No matter"
Triail arís "Try again"
Bain triail arís "Try again"
Ath-theip dea-theip "Fail again, fail better"

Don't think this quite works but I will throw it out there:

Síor-thriail síor-theip for "Ever tried, ever failed" but it is more like "constantly try, constantly fail".

Some proverbs in the same vein:

Ní bhíonn só gan anó "no pain, no gain"
Níor cailleadh a leath dá ndeachaigh i gcontúirt "Nothing ventured, nothing gained"

Await further input ...

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