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Redwolf · **Posted:** Thu 02 Jun 2016 6:40 pm

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

'Sí m'aidhm a bheith dána

If you want to use the word "aim" then Redwolf's is good.

Just a question for the others -
Can that first apostrophe be dropped, or is it encential to leave it in? It would look tidier.
AND
Isn't there an a there? I know it's often not pronounced. But maybe necessary when written.

Good questions. I've wondered about both of these myself.

An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

Redwolf wrote:

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

'Sí m'aidhm a bheith dána

If you want to use the word "aim" then Redwolf's is good.

Just a question for the others -
Can that first apostrophe be dropped, or is it encential to leave it in? It would look tidier.
AND
Isn't there an a there? I know it's often not pronounced. But maybe necessary when written.

Good questions. I've wondered about both of these myself.

I think the convention is actually not to have an a in the Caighdeán. But, that doesn't mean the Caighdeán is correct.

Cian

aslin · **Joined:** Wed 01 Jun 2016 6:05 pm **Posts:** 12

Okay I'm finally starting to understand.

So rather then going to "I aim to misbehave" if I want it in Irish I should be looking for something more like "I intend to misbehave".

Redwolf · **Posted:** Thu 02 Jun 2016 9:33 pm

aslin wrote:

Okay I'm finally starting to understand.

So rather then going to "I aim to misbehave" if I want it in Irish I should be looking for something more like "I intend to misbehave".

Really any of these we've given you will work.

Redwolf

aslin · **Joined:** Wed 01 Jun 2016 6:05 pm **Posts:** 12

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

'Sí m'aidhm a bheith dána

If you want to use them word "aim" then Redwolf's is good.

Just a question for the others -
Can that first apostrophe be dropped, or is it encential to leave it in? It would look tidier.
AND
Isn't there an a there? I know it's often not pronounced. But maybe necessary when written.

Good questions. I've wondered about both of these myself.

I think the convention is actually not to have an a in the Caighdeán. But, that doesn't mean the Caighdeán is correct.

Cian

What would be the proper caighdeán?

Redwolf · **Posted:** Fri 03 Jun 2016 1:10 am

aslin wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

'Sí m'aidhm a bheith dána

If you want to use them word "aim" then Redwolf's is good.

Just a question for the others -
Can that first apostrophe be dropped, or is it encential to leave it in? It would look tidier.
AND
Isn't there an a there? I know it's often not pronounced. But maybe necessary when written.

Good questions. I've wondered about both of these myself.

I think the convention is actually not to have an a in the Caighdeán. But, that doesn't mean the Caighdeán is correct.

Cian

What would be the proper caighdeán?

Well, that's where we get into another can of worms.

The Caighdean Oifigiúil is the "official standard" for Irish. Problem is, it's not what anyone actually speaks. It was designed to provide a written standard for documents and such. It cobbles together bits and pieces from the three dialects without regard for how anyone actually speaks the language.

I say ignore the Caighdean. As I said before, any of these we've given you is grammatically and idiomatically correct.

Redwolf

aslin · **Joined:** Wed 01 Jun 2016 6:05 pm **Posts:** 12

Thank you for your help :-) . If anyone else has any more idea's or suggestions, I look forward to them!

aslin · **Joined:** Wed 01 Jun 2016 6:05 pm **Posts:** 12

2nd to last of my many questions :-) is bheith anyways used with dalba or daná ? i know in many dictionaries i have come across in the examples they is them without it. but like you said before i'm assuming its more for writing and not speaking.

Labhrás · **Joined:** Sat 03 May 2014 4:01 pm **Posts:** 1979

aslin wrote:

2nd to last of my many questions :-) is bheith anyways used with dalba or daná ? i know in many dictionaries i have come across in the examples they is them without it. but like you said before i'm assuming its more for writing and not speaking.

dalba and dána are adjectives.
As predicative adjectives, they are usually used with the verb bí: "Tá tú dána" (You are bold) etc.
Bheith is the verbal noun of bí: "bheith dána" (to be bold).

aslin · **Joined:** Wed 01 Jun 2016 6:05 pm **Posts:** 12

my last question: i want to make sure the sentences structure is correct. what do these three really say? i'm hoping for something close to " i aim to misbehave" but i really want the word "misbehave" rather then "bold". I have my doubts only because when i use my english to irish dic. it doesnt come out right but writing is defferent then speaking in irish. and speaking is more important to me.

1) Tá rún agam bheith dalba

2) Tá fúm bheith dalba

3) Tá sé ar aigne agam bheith dalba

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