Errigal wrote:
Lughaidh wrote:
You can't say that, in my opinion, because -fear isn't the same person as "do".
You wouldn't say "One has to do your work" or in French "on doit faire ton travail". The verbal ending and the possessive must agree.
I'd say either "Caithfidh tú d'obair a dhéanamh" or "Caithfear an obair a dhéanamh". (since the impersonal has no possessive).
I didn't see anything wrong with "Caithfear d'obair a dhéanamh" myself, though I understand your point, Lughaidh. Anyway, I googled around and found quite a few (reliable, I think)examples, including these:
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Caithfear mo chomhairle a dhéanamh -Foclóir De Bhaldraithe
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Caithfear do thoil a thabhairt duit - Peadar Ua Laoghaire
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Caithfear bhur n-iarrachtaí a mholadh -
Chaithfí a ngruaig a níochán - (Native speaker on Tuairisc.ie
These examples are okay, because it is someone else who takes my advice, who gives you your will, etc.
As far as I understand the autonomous form is analogous to the arbitrary pronouns in German or French, "man" or "on".
"Caithfear t'obair a dhéanamh" = "Man muss deine Arbeit machen" doesn't make much sense in German (except the person is too lazy, overburdened, or unfit for work and you must plan who else could do it). So, I'd think it doesn't make more sense in Irish.
"Il faut ..." etc. is a different way of impersonality, as well as passive voice like English "must be done". They are not really comparable with "on faut", "man muss" or "caithfear".
So I'd think some different way must be used in Irish here, too. You can't use the verb "cathfidh" because it cannot be impersonal (except in an epistemic sense: caithfidh go ...)
Déarfainn:
Ní foláir t'obair a dhéanamh, ní mór t'obair a dhéanamh, is éigean t'obair a dhéanamh, is gá t'obair a dhéanamh, tá t'obair le déanamh, etc.
These (I think) are neutral forms. They say that the work
must be done and that it is
your work without implying that
someone else could/should/would do it.