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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 1:28 am 
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We have an online group that reads kids' books in Irish, and the latest section brought up a question I couldn't answer. May I ask you for help?

In one story, a monkey is thinking back to his pre-zoo childhood in Africa and thinks of "Zucai agus Tucaí agus Lucaí bocht ... ar bhfeicfeadh sé go deo arís iad?" The person who was translating wrote "Zukey and Tukey and poor Lukey . . . ," but then someone asked how you would say "Poor Zukey and Tukey and Lukey," and I didn't know for sure. "Zucai agus Tucaí agus Lucaí bochta"?

Thanks for any help you can give me.

--Kathy


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 2:17 am 
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I'd say "bochta" since it refers to the 3 characters (I guess).
Btw it should be "an bhfeicfeadh" and not "ar bhfeicfeadh".

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 2:30 am 
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Go raibh maith agat--and you're right: it's "an bhfeicfeadh" in the original. The guy who translated it copied it wrong, and I didn't catch it.


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 12:46 pm 
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Would bocht after each name not be the way

Lucaí bocht agus Tukaí bocht agus Zukaí bocht?

I seem to remember something about the construction 'a poor man and woman' would translate into Irish as 'fear bocht agus bean bhocht', with repetition of the adjective. Or would 'fear agus bean bhochta' also be acceptable??
But there it might be for a different reason. Or I picked it up wrong, (more likely).


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 1:01 pm 
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Lucaí bocht agus Tukaí bocht agus Zukaí bocht?


could be better but it's also much heavier...

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I seem to remember something about the construction 'a poor man and woman' would translate into Irish as 'fear bocht agus bean bhocht', with repetition of the adjective. Or would 'fear agus bean bhochta' also be acceptable??


looks strange but "fear bocht agus bean bhocht" looks heavy...

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 2:25 pm 
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Zúcaí agus Túcaí agus Lúcaí bocht = poor Z., T., and L.

Réitíonn an aidiacht leis an ainmfhocal deireanach de réir tuisil agus inscne.


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Réiteann leoga, ach an ndéanann sé tagairt do na 3 ainmfhocal atá roimhe?

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 2:50 pm 
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:??: Tá sé seo níos casta ná mar a shíl mé . . .


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 3:29 pm 
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Le fírinne, cha dtáinig mise ar a leithéid do cheist ariamh, agus char léigh mé abairt ar bith ina mbeadh 2 nó 3 ainm á gcáiliú ag aidiacht amháin. Níl sé comónta ar chor ar bith, sin an fáth a bhfuil an cheist deacair a réiteach.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2015 4:18 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Réiteann leoga, ach an ndéanann sé tagairt do na 3 ainmfhocal atá roimhe?


Braitheann sé ar an gcomthéacs, ar ndóigh.


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