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Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 3002

MacBoo wrote:

Bríd Mhór wrote:

But they don't know the entomology of it.

Think it was bugging them.... :LOL:

Sorry Bríd, I couldn't resist it.

Etymology

Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

GRMA, a Bhríd.

Dhá fhocal le cois: jarráil is scaibhtéara.

Jarráil Bearlta Mór agus Tommy Beag mé ar maidin faoi go raibh mé ag comhrá le fear Grimsby[.]..."Cé le n-aghaidh bhfuil tú ag déanamh mór leis an scaibhtéara sin as Bleá Cliath?"

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 3002

Domhnaillín Breac wrote:

GRMA, a Bhríd.

Dhá fhocal le cois: jarráil is scaibhtéara.

Jarráil Bearlta Mór agus Tommy Beag mé ar maidin faoi go raibh mé ag comhrá le fear Grimsby[.]..."Cé le n-aghaidh bhfuil tú ag déanamh mór leis an scaibhtéara sin as Bleá Cliath?"

Jarráil - comes from the hiberno-English word "jarring", to scold or to give out to somebody.

scaibhtéara - scoundrel, a blackguard
http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fgb/scabhait%C3%A9ir

déanamh mór - sucking up/ being nice

Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

GRMA.

Bríd Mhór wrote:

scaibhtéara - scoundrel, a blackguard

How would you pronounce this? (Istigh im' chloigeann táim a fhuaimniú /skəiˈtʹeːrə/.)

An saghas achrainn "reicstí"?

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 3002

Domhnaillín Breac wrote:

An saghas achrainn "reicstí"?

I don't know that word, although it does look a bit familiar.

Domhnaillín Breac wrote:

How would you pronounce this? (Istigh im' chloigeann táim a fhuaimniú /skəiˈtʹeːrə/.)

I'm not good at the IPA.
Scaibh.. - Scow..

Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

Bríd Mhór wrote:

I'm not good at the IPA.

"SKY-tear-a". Slender bh always diphthongises to /ai/ (i.e. "EYE") for me. Which I guess is why the standard spelling is scabhaitéir, which would also have /au/ (i.e. "OW") in my speech.

Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

"striompaithe" = "stromptha"?

E.g. "Thiontaigh mo dhá láimh dúghorm, bhíodar chomh striompaithe sin is mé ag iarraidh an diabhal de chábla a bhrú trí na píobáin."

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 3002

Domhnaillín Breac wrote:

"striompaithe" = "stromptha"?

E.g. "Thiontaigh mo dhá láimh dúghorm, bhíodar chomh striompaithe sin is mé ag iarraidh an diabhal de chábla a bhrú trí na píobáin."

Yes. Literally means "stiffened". But it what is said when feeling very cold.
Like you say in English "I'm freezing cold".

franc 91 · **Posted:** Mon 05 Oct 2015 10:19 pm

For the word scaibhtéara or scabhaire - wouldn't that come from the English word 'scab/scabby' - a strikebreaker which also has the more general meaning of someone of ill repute, unreliable, untrustworthy ?

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 3002

franc 91 wrote:

For the word scaibhtéara or scabhaire - wouldn't that come from the English word 'scab/scabby' - a strikebreaker which also has the more general meaning of someone of ill repute, unreliable, untrustworthy ?

I don't know.

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