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Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

Táim ag léamh an leabhar so le Dónall Mac Amhlaigh. Tuigim go réidh é, an chuid is mó den am, ach tá corrfhocal no corrfhrása a fhágann ag tochas mo chinn mé.

Nuair a thagann beirt deartháireacha bochta isteach sa scéal déir sé: "Tá beirt pinsirí ar an job seo agus ait na héin iad." Cad is brí do "phinsir"? Gaelú den fhocal Béarla "pincher" atá i gceist? Amach anso, insíonn an t-Amhlach, "Tugann siad [na "leads ogá" eile] 'gríscíní' agus 'latchicoes' orthu." Is stróinse nó bodach latchico, sin atá déanta amach agam, ach "gríscín"? An bhfuilid siad ag maíomh go bhfuil an bheirt ramhar in éagmais a bheith spreasánta?

Redwolf · **Posted:** Tue 22 Sep 2015 5:48 pm

Domhnaillín Breac wrote:

Táim ag léamh an leabhar so le Dónall Mac Amhlaigh. Tuigim go réidh é, an chuid is mó den am, ach tá corrfhocal no corrfhrása a fhágann ag tochas mo chinn mé.

Nuair a thagann beirt deartháireacha bochta isteach sa scéal déir sé: "Tá beirt pinsirí ar an job seo agus ait na héin iad." Cad is brí do "phinsir"? Gaelú den fhocal Béarla "pincher" atá i gceist? Amach anso, insíonn an t-Amhlach, "Tugann siad [na "leads ogá" eile] 'gríscíní' agus 'latchicoes' orthu." Is stróinse nó bodach latchico, sin atá déanta amach agam, ach "gríscín"? An bhfuilid siad ag maíomh go bhfuil an bheirt ramhar in éagmais a bheith spreasánta?

"Pensioners," b'fhéidir.

Redwolf

Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

Redwolf wrote:

"Pensioners," b'fhéidir.

Shileas gur "pinsinéirí" iad. Ní dóigh liom go bhfuil an bheirt seo ina seandaoine.

WeeFalorieMan · **Posted:** Tue 22 Sep 2015 9:58 pm

Just a guess:

Maybe pinsirí is a variant of pionsóirí "swordsmen".
beirt pinsirí = beirt pionsóirí (two swordsmen) :dhera:

MacBoo · **Posted:** Wed 23 Sep 2015 1:19 pm

Amongst the Irish that worked in the construction industry, pinchers were lads who pulled cables under the streets. The name probably came from the tongs they used to pull the cables.
(In English slang pinchers are people who steal).

"The Green and the Grey and the RSK, the Lowery and the Pincher Mac."

Acting the Greek meant playing the fool in Irish-English. So maybe gríscín (I always heard it pronounced greesheen) is just the English word Grecian taken into Irish.

Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

MacBoo wrote:

Amongst the Irish that worked in the construction industry, pinchers were lads who pulled cables under the streets. The name probably came from the tongs they used to pull the cables.
(In English slang pinchers are people who steal).

GRMA, a MhacBoo. The English slang meaning might've worked here, but there's another character referred to as "an seanphinsire" who's rather more upstanding.

MacBoo wrote:

Acting the Greek meant playing the fool in Irish-English. So maybe gríscín (I always heard it pronounced greesheen) is just the English word Grecian taken into Irish.

De réir Uí Dhóniall, grísín = gríscín. GRMA athuair!

Domhnaillín Breac · **Joined:** Fri 01 Mar 2013 3:50 pm **Posts:** 171

Focal diamhair an lae: "múirthíl"
Comhthéacs: "...bhí an aimsir ag múirthíl b'éigean dúinn dul faoi fhoscadh an chlaí[.]"

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 3001

Domhnaillín Breac wrote:

Focal diamhair an lae: "múirthíl"
Comhthéacs: "...bhí an aimsir ag múirthíl b'éigean dúinn dul faoi fhoscadh an chlaí[.]"

Múr - is the Conamara word for "shower". In other dialect they say "cith".

Múirthíl - showery

It was showery weather so they had to find shelter under the stone wall.

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 3001

Redwolf wrote:

"Pensioners," b'fhéidir.

That was my first thought too.

Domhnaillín Breac wrote:

latchicoes

I see Caffler saying on the forum that shall not be named :LOL:

that "latchico" means "eejit".
But they don't know the entomology of it.

MacBoo · **Posted:** Sun 27 Sep 2015 8:33 am

Bríd Mhór wrote:

But they don't know the entomology of it.

Think it was bugging them.... :LOL:

Sorry Bríd, I couldn't resist it.

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