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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Mon 28 Jan 2013 10:04 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
I've never heard "tig" used for "tag"...perhaps it's just not an American thing.

Anyway, shadow tag is pretty much the same as regular tag. One person is chosen to be "it." The other people try to keep away from "it." Usually the players who are not "it" have a limited area in which they can run, agreed upon before the game begins. If "it" manages to step on someone's shadow, that person now becomes "it." Best played on a sunny day, for obvious reasons.

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Redwolf, that's just how shadow tag was played on the sidewalks of New York. Think tig is just a typo.


Redwolf is correct. It is not a typo. It is the same game. ;)

"Tag" is used mostly by Americans. Outside the US (and Canada?), it is usually "tig" or "tiggy". It is also know as "tick","touch", and "touch-last", verifying Franc's comment about "tick".

Sometimes in addition to the above rules, we would have a "bar", a resting place where you were safe from "it" as long as you were touching it or standing on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Mon 28 Jan 2013 10:58 pm 
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It is, by the way, a truly wild and crazy game when played on horseback!

We would sometimes have a safe place too (where "it" couldn't tag you)...if I recall correctly, we just called it "home." In some games, you were limited as to how long you could remain there.

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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2013 1:24 am 
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Games like tag sometimes have differences in the US and Canada of Germanic origin (about 1/4 of people in the US have some Germanic ancestry, not including Anglo-Saxons). In many places there is a phrase to end a game of tag, worded in some way like "alley, alley in come free", which few people realize comes from some Pennsylvania Dutch/Low German version of "Alle, alle [her]einkomm[t] frei".

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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2013 1:29 am 
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We used to call it touch when I was younger, a lot of kids call it tag now, I suppose that's from watching American telly. We used to play tip the can as well in primary school.

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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2013 2:28 am 
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CaoimhínSF wrote:
Games like tag sometimes have differences in the US and Canada of Germanic origin (about 1/4 of people in the US have some Germanic ancestry, not including Anglo-Saxons). In many places there is a phrase to end a game of tag, worded in some way like "alley, alley in come free", which few people realize comes from some Pennsylvania Dutch/Low German version of "Alle, alle [her]einkomm[t] frei".


Is that where that comes from? Cool! I never knew that! We didn't use it with tag, but we did with hide and seek (and it was the very corrupted "Alley alley oxen free!")

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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2013 9:43 am 
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Go raibh maith agat a Bheagle.
I think I'm right in thinking that the link I gave isn't working. Anyway, this is what I was referring to. Are they traditional games or has Ita Seoighe created them? I can't find cóin in the dictionary, a shéidtear - is I'm assuming, the passive impersonal and I've seen it used elsewhere, but it's not in my book of verbs and why does she say thósaíonn rather than tósaíonn?

Éininí Ocracha

Fearas: Málaí Pónairí
Cur síos: Málaí pónairí scaipaithe (shouldn't that be scaipthe? and isn't there a spelling mistake there?) sa chlós.
Bíodh níos lú málaí pónairí ná páistí.
Thósaíonn ná páistí (éininí) ar rith (eilit) timpeall. Nuair a shéidtear an fhéadóg déanann gach páiste
iarracht mála pónaire a phiocadh suas.(which sounds like Bearlachas to me - to pick up)

Na Bláthanna agus na Beacha

Fearas: Cóin
Cur síos: Marcáil baile le cóin ná cailc i leathtaobh den chlós.
Na Bláthanna, leath den rang, (páistí ar a ghluine nó ag cromadh síos) scapaithe ar fud an chlóis.
Ritheann (eitlíonn) na Beacha, an leath eile den rang, isteach is amach eathortha.
Nuair a shéidtear an fhéadóg léimeann na Bláthanna in airde agus déanann siad iarracht breith ar na Beacha sular sroiceann siad an baile.

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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2013 11:52 am 
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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
We used to play tip the can as well in primary school.
We played 'Kick the Can' where I lived; my absolute favourite game for a few years!

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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
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Saoirse, Kick the Can was what we played in NY as well, While I heard Alley alley oxen free, we used Home Free All as an end to Hide and Seek


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 Post subject: Re: Children's games
PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013 12:25 am 
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Is that where that comes from? Cool! I never knew that! We didn't use it with tag, but we did with hide and seek (and it was the very corrupted "Alley alley oxen free!")


Yes, and that comes from "Alle, alle auch sind frei" ("All, all, are also free").

The calls probably originated in Pennsylvania or Ohio in the 18th century, with heavy German-speaking settlement, and spread from there. "English" kids who copied the calls didn't have to understand them, so they didn't actually translate "frei" into "free". Although "frei" is pronounced like the English "fry" in High German, in many German dialects (including those spoken by early immigrants to the US) the "ei" combination is pronounced as something like the "ay" in the English word "pray", so the call probably sounded in its original form like "olle, olle, awk zin fray".

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