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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 12:51 pm 
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maidhcreabhuéimh


nó maidhcreabhaeimh :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 4:43 pm 
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Benjamin wrote:
The number of native speakers that would say micreathonn would be zero
That probably should have been my starting point actually! What do natives call the thing! :bash:

A Bhreandáin, a chara, go raibh míle maith agat as do chuid oibre ansin. I didn't even realise that the 'micrea' was one syllable - I just didn't know what to do with the word. Maybe there is a reason I have never heard it pronounced - perhaps as has been suggested - nobody really uses it!

A Bhríd, a chara, cén t-ainm a churann tú ar 'microwave'? :?:
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Well, Bríd will probably be along shortly to tell us they actually just use maidhcreabhuéimh (oibhin) in the Gaeltacht.
nó
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nó maidhcreabhaeimh
nó ainm eile?

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 7:30 pm 
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I've never anybody say anything other than "microwave".

I can't imagine anybody saying -maidhcreabhuéimh oibhin

The Welsh call it - Popty Ping.
Popty = oven

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 9:41 pm 
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Benjamin wrote:
The number of native speakers that would say micreathonn would be zero

Perhaps. My motto is "Never say never." Even if every native speaker I knew didn't use it, I wouldn't assume that that meant nobody uses it.

There are native speakers who prefer the made-up terms rather than using English terms. I am not sure but I think that is more the case in Munster? I haven't met them personally but I know they do exist ...

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maidhcreabhuéimh
nó maidhcreabhaeimh :mrgreen:

Nice work, a Lughaidh. :good: I was struggling with the "way" part of "wave". :yes:

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I didn't even realise that the 'micrea' was one syllable

It's two. ;)

Bríd Mhór wrote:
I've never anybody say anything other than "microwave".

I can't imagine anybody saying -maidhcreabhuéimh oibhin

A Bhríd, if you say "microwave" as in the English pronunciation, then it would be spelt something like Lughaidh's "maidhcreabhaeimh" in Irish spelling, especially if you would normally make any grammatical changes to it like leniting the first letter after mo, etc. That's how a borrowed word becomes a proper part of a language, by being treated in the same way as the native vocabulary.

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The Welsh call it - Popty Ping.
Popty = oven

The Japanese call the machine a 電子レンジ DENSHI RENJI "an electronic range", but the verb is チーンするCHEEN SURU, チーン CHEEN being the characteristic "ting" sound when the cycle is finished - not so different from the Welsh idea. ;)

Is there a verb like English "nuke" or "zap" in Irish to the describe "cooking" in the damn things?

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 10:06 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
A Bhríd, if you say "microwave" as in the English pronunciation, then it would be spelt something like Lughaidh's "maidhcreabhaeimh" in Irish spelling, especially if you would normally make any grammatical changes to it like leniting the first letter after mo, etc. That's how a borrowed word becomes a proper part of a language, by being treated in the same way as the native vocabulary.


Oh sorry Lughaidh ! I didn't see that as a phonetic spelling. :)


Yes, it would be lenited if necessary.
Microwaves are much newer than older electrical appliances like television and fridge, in my personal experience anyhow. Teilibhiseán - sa bhfridge - have a more natural feel to them.



I like the translation of the septic tank tax than Rónán Mac an Bhuí has - cáin caca.

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I like the translation of the septic tank tax than Rónán Mac an Bhuí has - cáin caca.


foc saeidhc, íocann sibh as cáin ar na septic tanks in Éirinn? Tá sé níos measa ná anseo, mar sin.
Ba chóir gan labhairt fá dtaobh dó sin le polaiteoirí na Fraince, nó an bhliain seo chugainn beidh orainn íoc as cáin caca fosta !!!! :darklaugh: :darklaugh: :darklaugh: :darklaugh:

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Bríd Mhór wrote:
sa bhfridge

@Lughaidh - How would you recommend we spell "fridge"?

Ceapaim frits, nó frids, b'fhéidir? Cuir sa bhfrids/sa fhrids/insan fhrids é ! :D

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 11:21 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
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I like the translation of the septic tank tax than Rónán Mac an Bhuí has - cáin caca.


foc saeidhc, íocann sibh as cáin ar na septic tanks in Éirinn? Tá sé níos measa ná anseo, mar sin.
Ba chóir gan labhairt fá dtaobh dó sin le polaiteoirí na Fraince, nó an bhliain seo chugainn beidh orainn íoc as cáin caca fosta !!!! :darklaugh: :darklaugh: :darklaugh: :darklaugh:



Tá mo chacsa ag goil sa bhfarraige. Tá mé ar an gcóras poiblí. :D

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Oct 2012 12:00 pm 
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@Lughaidh - How would you recommend we spell "fridge"?


mmm "fridz" but 99% of the Irish speakers wouldn't recognize the word nor pronounce it properly from its pronunciation. But I think the only Irish way to write the [ʒ] sound in Irish is the slender z (cf eclipsis of s in Cleare Island Irish)... But since nobody is used to it, I think it's simpler, in this case, to keep the English spelling...

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Oct 2012 3:06 pm 
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Benjamin wrote:
The number of native speakers that would say micreathonn would be zero

tá an ceart agat.
Mion = micro, tiny
gathach = radiate,
ga= beam,ray
oigheann mion ghathach = micro wave oven
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