Ade wrote:
It seems to me that the l of baile is never pronounced as a slender consonant by native speakers. In hindsight, I can only confidently say I've ever heard it pronounced as slender by L2 speakers; teachers and students during my schooldays mostly. But, then, I don't know of any dialect in which it is spelled so as to reflect that it's a broad consonant, and I don't know of it ever being spelled with a with a double consonant, baille, in Old Irish sources.
Any ideas how the pronunciation came to be what it is, despite the spelling? Or is it spelled differently anywhere, and I just don't know about it?
I think what you're referring to is the 4 L's in some Irish dialects: tense broad L, lax broad L, tense slender L and lax slender L - L, l, L' and l'.
You're right that learners tend to give it an exaggerated L', which is not right, or they put an exaggerated English "y" after the l.
Cork Irish doesn't have a 4-way distinction, only lax broad l and lax slender l, and the lax slender may be closer to an English l than the L' in some words in Ulster Irish would be. Fuaimeanna (
http://fuaimeanna.ie/ga/Recordings.aspx?Ortho=baile) shows this word has the lax slender l in Munster -and yet - and i was surprised to see it - shows a broad l in Ulster and Connaught (and yet the Connaught recording sounds slender).
Go fóill (
http://fuaimeanna.ie/ga/Recordings.aspx ... f%C3%B3ill) shows the difference between tense and lax slender l, but I admit I can hardly hear anything.