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 Post subject: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Fri 19 Nov 2021 10:46 pm 
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I've just watched two episodes of this series, and I've realised there is some nonsense pretend Irish in it. The Aes Sedai, pronounced /ˈaɪz sɛˈdaɪ/ in the series, must be the Aos Sí (Aos Sídhe). There is also a character in it called Moiraine Damodred, probably the Morrígan. This is what happens when people who have ZERO interest in Irish come on Irish language forums and ask for "help" to put nonsense into fake Irish. The series isn't even about Ireland and has nothing to do with Ireland.


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2021 8:25 pm 
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I really don't think it's much to do with fake Irish, honestly. It's just a fantasy series that is older than myself. I think you're reading too much into this.


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Mon 22 Nov 2021 2:29 am 
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galaxyrocker wrote:
I really don't think it's much to do with fake Irish, honestly. It's just a fantasy series that is older than myself. I think you're reading too much into this.


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Mon 22 Nov 2021 3:29 am 
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galaxyrocker wrote:
I really don't think it's much to do with fake Irish, honestly. It's just a fantasy series that is older than myself. I think you're reading too much into this.


It's a new series that is just out.


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Mon 22 Nov 2021 8:38 am 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
This is what happens when people who have ZERO interest in Irish come on Irish language forums and ask for "help" to put nonsense into fake Irish. The series isn't even about Ireland and has nothing to do with Ireland.


First of all, poetic license allows people to do pretty much whatever they want when creating stories in whatever form they wish. There's not much you can do about it once they decide that's what they want to do.

Second, you take a lot of liberty (on this post now and, previously, elsewhere) assuming that people don't care about the language. I think most people have a genuine interest in it. They may not have all the knowledge about it and may be ignorant as to how languages work, and so on, but it seems they are genuinely willing to know more about it. I am always happy to help people find a good Irish word or phrase for what they want. I make mistakes so that's why I'm glad there are people here who like to work together to come up with something really good, or as good as possible considering the circumstances. It's not fake. As a matter of fact, if you feel that way, why don't you help out more in getting good Irish out there regardless of the reason? It helps the overall corpus of knowledge that we all strive for.

And if the series isn't about, or has nothing to do with Ireland, why the hell do you care if the language they use is correct or not? (That's a rhetorical question. I feel like I have to tell you because when I asked rhetorical questions to you before, you always had an answer. I don't require an answer for this question.)

There are so many more important things to discuss and think about. With your knowledge, why don't you post something that we can really learn from or get involved in? (Not rhetorical.)


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Mon 22 Nov 2021 8:46 am 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
It's a new series that is just out.


It's based on a book series, mate. The first one was literally published almost 32 years ago. It's *not* new, and is, as I said, older than myself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Mon 22 Nov 2021 11:09 am 
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galaxyrocker wrote:
djwebb2021 wrote:
It's a new series that is just out.


It's based on a book series, mate. The first one was literally published almost 32 years ago. It's *not* new, and is, as I said, older than myself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time


The book claims that Aos Sídhe (Aes Sedai) means "the Servants of All". This is just nonsense.


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Mon 22 Nov 2021 11:40 am 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
The book claims that Aos Sídhe (Aes Sedai) means "the Servants of All". This is just nonsense.


Perhaps because it's not Irish? Have you ever thought of that?


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Mon 22 Nov 2021 12:19 pm 
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galaxyrocker wrote:
djwebb2021 wrote:
The book claims that Aos Sídhe (Aes Sedai) means "the Servants of All". This is just nonsense.


Perhaps because it's not Irish? Have you ever thought of that?


It is Irish - but by someone who was just piling any old nonsense in the book. The Moirraine too - the Morrígan.


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 Post subject: Re: Wheel of Time
PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2021 7:59 pm 
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There is fake Irish used in a lot of witchcraft/wiccan books. And historical romances like the Scottish Gaelic used in Highlander. But if any author comes to this site asking for correct spelling or pronunciation, even if it's for a shite project, I'm happy to help if I am able. It shows they are trying to get it right so fair play to them for that. :reading:


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