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I was on a site where people were asking if others preferred one thing or another. One person replied "is maith liom an beirt acu!" Can personal numbers be used in that way? I must admit that "beirt" was my first thought as well, but then I stopped myself.

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Redwolf wrote:
I was on a site where people were asking if others preferred one thing or another. One person replied "is maith liom an beirt acu!" Can personal numbers be used in that way? I must admit that "beirt" was my first thought as well, but then I stopped myself.

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FGB says that it can be used "of things, without a dependent noun". It gives as an example: "beirt de chaoraigh bána" (I guess the "de" keeps the noun there from being dependent). It also says that beirt can be the answer to a question such as "Cá mhéad ceann ann?"

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In Donegal, you can use the personal numbers to refer to things or animals, but only as pronouns.

Ie. you can say "cheannaigh mé beirt" (I bought two -- talking about books or anything), but "cheannaigh mé dheá leabhar", not *cheannaigh mé beirt leabharthach.

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One person replied "is maith liom an beirt acu!"


correct except that the lenition is missing: an bHeirt acu

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Nov 2016 12:35 am 
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Like Lughaidh said "beirt" is used differently in Donegal. In Conamara we use it for people only, not animals or intimate objects. We'd say "chaon cheann acub".


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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Like Lughaidh said "beirt" is used differently in Donegal. In Conamara we use it for people only, not animals or intimate objects. We'd say "chaon cheann acub".


A Bhríd,
So you would say (ga)ch aon cheann acu about people? Is it possible/normal to say (ga)ch aon duine acu or (ga)ch éinne acu

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Cúmhaí wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Like Lughaidh said "beirt" is used differently in Donegal. In Conamara we use it for people only, not animals or intimate objects. We'd say "chaon cheann acub".


A Bhríd,
So you would say (ga)ch aon cheann acu about people? Is it possible/normal to say (ga)ch aon duine acu or (ga)ch éinne acu



(ga)ch aon cheann = we say - chaon cheann (both of them)
(ga)ch éinne acu = correct, but we prefer - chuile dhuine (everybody)

We also say "péire" for two objects.


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