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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jul 2016 10:53 am 
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Hello,

please, i need the translation of the proverb "where there's a will, there's a way".

I have found so many different translations on the net, that i'm completely lost.

And i would need the variations of the same proverb:

where there's a way, there's a goal

where there's a goal, there's a will

Many thanks for your help

raoulb


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jul 2016 11:16 am 
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Níl tobar ar bith gan cosán.
This is the old proverb for where there is will there is a way .Lambert Mckenna SJ published a book decades back and his book is a treasure on old irish proverbs with an English equivalent.
English-Irish Phrase Book Dictionary,published 1911 by Gill & Sons
You may find it online try archive.org and buzz.org or Openlibrary. I downloaded it years ago, it is an abbreviated dictionary of
the famous English -Irish Dictionary produced by Lambert McKenna SJ


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2016 8:06 am 
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thanks a lot, also for the information on Lambert Mckenna.

What about the variations I mentioned? could "Níl tobar ar bith gan cosán" be adapted for those two?


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul 2016 1:46 pm 
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Because you asked the same in another forum, I'll give my answer here as well
(because here are more people who could correct it)

áit a bhfuil toil tá bealach
Verbatim "Where’s a wish there's a way"
So in this dictionary: http://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/where#where__11

tnúth a threabhas
So here in Ó Dónaill’s dictionary: http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fgb/threabhas
Literally probably: "Expectation/desire ploughs"

fonn a níos fiach
So as well in Ó Dónaill’s dictionary: http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fgb/fonn
Literally probably: It’s a wish that makes hunt

fonn a dhéanas fiach
So in de Bhaldraithe’s dictionary: http://www.teanglann.ie/en/eid/will
Same as above, but different form for "(that) makes"

Most of them don't suit well for alteration, except "áit a bhfuil toil tá bealach".

Áit a bhfuil toil tá bealach. = Where there’s a will there’s a way.
Áit a bhfuil bealach tá aidhm. = Where there’s a way there’s a goal.
Áit a bhfuil aidhm tá toil. =Where there’s a goal there’s a will.


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Aug 2016 6:21 am 
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thank you very much, this really helps a lot!


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