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 Post subject: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2016 5:27 pm 
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Is this ok...

"na ceannairí a fuair bás" ?

I know it might be a tad annoying I keep posting "simple" enough stuff, just I'm still at the stage of second guessing myself on pretty much all the stuff I write.

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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2016 8:02 pm 
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Cliathach wrote:
"na ceannairí a fuair bás" ?


I'm thinking "a bhfuair bás" but don't trust me

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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2016 8:09 pm 
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Cúmhaí wrote:
Cliathach wrote:
"na ceannairí a fuair bás" ?


I'm thinking "a bhfuair bás" but don't trust me


There’s "ní bhfuair" but "a fuair".


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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2016 8:14 pm 
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Labhrás wrote:
Cúmhaí wrote:
Cliathach wrote:
"na ceannairí a fuair bás" ?


I'm thinking "a bhfuair bás" but don't trust me


There’s "ní bhfuair" but "a fuair".


Thanks, Labhrás. Is é sin an fáth lena scríobhaim gan mé a chreidiúnt.

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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2016 9:32 pm 
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I think a bhfuair is OK here, no? I'll try to find a reference online.

An duine a bhfuair bás etc. no?

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According to this, both are OK.

http://www.teanglann.ie/ga/eid/bhfuair


"The night that he died," an oíche a fuair, a bhfuair, sé bás.


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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2016 9:50 pm 
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Gumbi wrote:
I think a bhfuair is OK here, no? I'll try to find a reference online.

An duine a bhfuair bás etc. no?

Edit:

According to this, both are OK.

http://www.teanglann.ie/ga/eid/bhfuair


"The night that he died," an oíche a fuair, a bhfuair, sé bás.


a fuair: direct relative clause
a bhfuair: indirect relative clause

an duine a fuair bás: direct relative (indirect relative clause is impossible here)
an oíche a bhfuair sé bás: indirect relative (a direct relative clause is possible, too: an oíche a fuair sé bás)


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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2016 9:54 pm 
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Thanks for clearing that up. I often get confused as to which is correct at times.


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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
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Gumbi wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up. I often get confused as to which is correct at times.


Arais i mbun na leabhar leat! :prof: :prof: :LOL:


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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
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Errigal wrote:
Gumbi wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up. I often get confused as to which is correct at times.


Arais i mbun na leabhar leat! :prof: :prof: :LOL:

Na leabhair nár léigh mé ariamh iad :oops: An Ghaeilge atá agam, tá sé agam de bharr mo chuid cainte, chomh maith leis an suíomh seo (agus an seana cheann freisin) :P

Ach chun na fírinne a rá, ba cheart dom níos mó Gaeilge a léamh, ábhair liteartha agus mar sin de...


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 Post subject: Re: na ceannairí...
PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2016 10:48 pm 
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an oíche a bhfuair sé bás: indirect relative (a direct relative clause is possible, too: an oíche a fuair sé bás)


tá cuma aisteach ar "an oíche a fuair sé bás", ar a laghad sa teangaidh scríofa.

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