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PostPosted: Thu 05 May 2016 8:56 pm 
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Because they don't think they should give free lessons to anyone.

http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/lette ... -1.2634950

I just want to vent.


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PostPosted: Thu 05 May 2016 9:58 pm 
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Aríst eile, duine nár thuig rud ar bith.
Caithfidh go bhfuil sé bodhar nó nach bhfuil Gaeilg ar bith aige, munar chualaidh sé duifear ar bith eadar Gaeilg na Gaeltachta agus cionn Bhaile Átha Cliath nó cionn Bhéal Feirste...

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PostPosted: Thu 05 May 2016 10:22 pm 
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Agus, an rud a chuireanns an fearg is mó ormsa ná tá sé ag iarraidh chuile chainteoir dúchais a bheith ina "guinea pig. Ní orthu an Ghaeilge a úsáid le éinne. Tá mé an-bhuíoch de na daoine a úsáideanns sí, ach ní gá dúinn í a úsáid le foghlaimeoir mar tá an foghlaimeoir á iarradh! An abródh sé an rud céanna le cainteoir dhúchais Francaise?


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PostPosted: Thu 05 May 2016 11:28 pm 
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Tá daoiní ann in Éirinn ar maith leofa caitheamh anuas ar na cainteoirí Gaeltachta: ní maith leis na daoiní sin admháil nach labhrann siad i gceart, so cáineann siad na cainteoirí Gaeltachta, iad a labhras go maith. Le fírinne, tá siad in éad...
Faghthar na hamadáin chéarna in mo thír féin, an Bhriotáin. Bhail, de réir a chéile, bheireann na foghlaimeoirí Briotáinise (cuid mhaith acu ar a laghad) neamhaird iomlán ar na cainteoirí dúchais. Tá a gcuid Briotáinise caca féin acu agus cha bhíonn siad ag iarraidh bheith i dteangmháil le cainteoirí dúchais ar chor ar bith.

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PostPosted: Fri 06 May 2016 3:04 pm 
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Yeah. I mean if I was a Gael, I'd be like: "Hey, I speak fluent English and you speak fluent English. So why do I have to struggle to understand your bad Irish when it would be easier for both of us to hold a conversation in English. Or are you just using me to get a free language lesson?" Makes perfect sense :p It's like going up to someone and saying "Hey, the only reason I really want to speak to you is because you're an Irish speaker, but could you please tell me..."


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PostPosted: Fri 06 May 2016 3:44 pm 
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gliaire wrote:
Hey, I speak fluent English and you speak fluent English. So why do I have to struggle to understand your bad Irish when it would be easier for both of us to hold a conversation in English.


:D

They paid to be there, so the animals in the zoo should be more helpful. :LOL:


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PostPosted: Sat 07 May 2016 4:10 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
gliaire wrote:
Hey, I speak fluent English and you speak fluent English. So why do I have to struggle to understand your bad Irish when it would be easier for both of us to hold a conversation in English.


:D

They paid to be there, so the animals in the zoo should be more helpful. :LOL:


It's sad, but I've just seen what amounts to this same attitude from where I was discussing this on Duolingo (basically saying the native shouldn't automatically be expected to use Irish, when English would likely be easier) and I was greeted with:

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There's also the point that the hypothetical customer wandering into a shop in the Gaeltacht didn't travel all that way to efficiently buy a Mars bar and a can of Lilt, they went there to improve their Irish.



Basically saying that if the customer went there to improve Irish, all natives should immediately comply because the learner is more important.


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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2016 10:56 am 
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That's something that makes me very uneasy. I feel very privileged to be able to have access to native speakers and to people who are highly competent in Irish, but of course I wouldn't want to impose on them in any way. I fully understand that someone like me whose skills in Irish aren't very great could be a pain in the neck for them.


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PostPosted: Sun 15 May 2016 6:28 pm 
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Jibberish even without google translate.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 May 2016 7:03 pm 
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franc 91 wrote:
That's something that makes me very uneasy. I feel very privileged to be able to have access to native speakers and to people who are highly competent in Irish, but of course I wouldn't want to impose on them in any way. I fully understand that someone like me whose skills in Irish aren't very great could be a pain in the neck for them.


Agreed Franc. I always am worried that I'm being pushy when I ask native speakers questions and such. I view it as them helping me, and feel that they should do what they want; it's about them helping me, not me getting what I want from them. And I've offered to pay my regular practice partner numerous times.


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