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PostPosted: Mon 23 Nov 2015 6:12 pm 
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Hi , im just wondering if anybody would be able to post me the correct translation of "raglan road" ??

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 Post subject: Re: Raglan Road
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bobby84 wrote:
Hi , im just wondering if anybody would be able to post me the correct translation of "raglan road" ??

Cheers,

Bobby.


On Raglan Road of an autumn day
I saw her first and knew
That her dark hair would weave a snare
That I might one day rue
I saw the danger and I passed
Along the enchanted way
And I said let grief be a fallen leaf
At the dawning of the day

On Grafton Street in November
We tripped lightly along the ledge
Of a deep ravine where can be seen
The worth of passion's pledge
The Queen of Hearts still making tarts
And I not making hay
Oh I loved too much and by such by such
Is happiness thrown away

I gave her gifts of the mind
I gave her the secret signs
That's known to the artists who have known
The true gods of sound and stone
And word and tint I did not stint
I gave her poems to say
With her own name there
And her own dark hair
Like clouds over fields of May

On a quiet street where old ghosts meet
I see her walking now
Away from me so hurriedly my reason must allow
That I had loved not as I should
A creature made of clay
When the angel woos the clay
He'll lose his wings at the dawn of day


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bobby84 wrote:
Hi , im just wondering if anybody would be able to post me the correct translation of "raglan road" ??

Cheers,

Bobby.
Posted: Mon 23 Nov 2015 6:12 pm



The air in Irish - Fáinne Geal an Lae - has nothing to do with Raghlan Road. The tune of Fáinne Geal an Lae was applied to Patrick Kavangh's poem, Raghlan Road by the Dubliners.

Fáinne Geal an Lae was originally a macaronic song, i.e. containing both Irish and English, and is about the courtship of a girl.

http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/cassidys/fainne.htm (with 'rough' translation)

Song in Ulster Irish pronunciation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Z4iMRKBc4

Cian

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Cheers, do you know where i could get the poem translated?


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bobby84 wrote:
Hi , im just wondering if anybody would be able to post me the correct translation of "raglan road" ??

Cheers,

Bobby.


Raglan Road = Bóthar Raglan
Raglan (Welsh: Rhaglan) is a village in Monmouthshire.
The road was named for FitzRoy Somerset, 1st Baron Raglan.


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Cheers.do you know where i could get the poem translated into irish?


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Just wondering if anybody knows where i could get the poem "raglan road" translated into irish??

cheers,

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bobby84 wrote:
bobby84 wrote:
Hi , im just wondering if anybody would be able to post me the correct translation of "raglan road" ??

Cheers,

Bobby.


On Raglan Road of an autumn day
I saw her first and knew
That her dark hair would weave a snare
That I might one day rue
I saw the danger and I passed
Along the enchanted way
And I said let grief be a fallen leaf
At the dawning of the day

On Grafton Street in November
We tripped lightly along the ledge
Of a deep ravine where can be seen
The worth of passion's pledge
The Queen of Hearts still making tarts
And I not making hay
Oh I loved too much and by such by such
Is happiness thrown away

I gave her gifts of the mind
I gave her the secret signs
That's known to the artists who have known
The true gods of sound and stone
And word and tint I did not stint
I gave her poems to say
With her own name there
And her own dark hair
Like clouds over fields of May

On a quiet street where old ghosts meet
I see her walking now
Away from me so hurriedly my reason must allow
That I had loved not as I should
A creature made of clay
When the angel woos the clay
He'll lose his wings at the dawn of day


To get the ball rolling (very rough- doesn't make a whole lot of sense), just to let you know its probably not going to fit into the same tune as the English once its directly translated!

Standard Irish:

On Raglan Road of an autumn day Ar bhóthar Raglan, ar lá Fómhair,
I saw her first and knew Chonaic mé í ar dtús agus bhí fhios agam,
That her dark hair would weave a snare go sníomhfadh a cuid gruaige duibhe inneall (dom)
That I might one day rue (agus) go mbeadh cathú orm lá éigin
I saw the danger and I passed chonaic mé an baol ach fós ghabh mé thairis
Along the enchanted way ar feadh na slí draíochtúla (changeable, dep. on your def. of enchanted)
And I said let grief be a fallen leaf Agus dúirt mé, lig don dhobrón bheith ina dhuilleog leagaithe
At the dawning of the day Ar fáínne geal an lae

Cian

Definitely wait for more input, I'm not the bet at translations.

Crossed with OP

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 Post subject: Re: Raglan Road
PostPosted: Mon 23 Nov 2015 10:55 pm 
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lovely, cheers.its just a written translation ill need it for.i wont be singing it.

thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon 23 Nov 2015 11:09 pm 
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bobby84 wrote:
Just wondering if anybody knows where i could get the poem "raglan road" translated into irish??

cheers,

bobby.


Hi Bobby,

Please don't duplicate requests, keep all questions regarding a specific topic within your original thread.

That way people can follow the discussion without getting confused ;) .

To answer Bobby's question, please refer to: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3951

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