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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2015 2:57 pm 
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Hi,
So redwolf directed me here to ask my questions. And I hope you guys can help. I have a few phrases that I kind of patched together with my limited Irish and I'm hoping to get some gramatical direction as well as better phrasing whenever you feel something is awkward.

- Tá mé leanúnaí de na Déithe na hÉireann. (I am a follower of the Irish Gods) [the word I'm really looking for is client instead of follower but wasn't sure about how to add it there]

- An é m’ íobairt inghlactha? (Is my sacrifice accepted?)

- Go raibh beannachtai na nDéithe agus ár sinsear an ofráil. (May the Gods and Ancestors bless the offering)

- Fearainn de Thalamh, Muir agus Spéir. (Realms of Land, Sea and Sky) [It has been suggested to me to use "Neamh" instead of "Spéir"]

- Aithris paidreacha (Recitation of prayers)

- A shinsear, go raibh maith agaibh! (Ancestors, thank you!)

- Beannachtaí na nDéithe duit/daoibh. (Blessings of the Gods be with you.)

- Beanú na nDéithe agus n’aindhéithe ort/oraibh. (Blessings of the Gods and the non-Gods upon you) [Is this correct modern Irish or have I botched it]

- Neart inár lámha, Fírinne ar ár dteanga, glaine inár gcroí (Strength in our arm, truth on our tongue, clarity in out heart) [Is this correct modern Irish or have I botched it]

- Is é an tús gach eolas fiosrúcháin. (The beginning of all knowledge is inquiry) [Is this correct or is this one better Tosach Eolais Imchomharc]

- Príomh-íobairt (Main Sacrifice)

- Uisce Coisrcthe (Holy Water)

- Áit bheannaithe (Sacred Space)

- Garrán naofa (Sacred grove)

- Ofráil íobairt (offering of sacrifice)

- Deoch ofrála (libation)

- Guí os cionn na-ofrálacha (prayers over the offerings)

- Ofráil leann úll (Cider offering)

- Coinnle tinteán (hearth candles)

- Na nDéithe libh (Gods be with you)

- Béalaíocht (oral tradition)

- Tá mé anseo chun onóir a thabhairt do na nDeithe (I am here to honor the Gods)

Go raibh maith agaibh!


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2015 10:33 pm 
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[quote="ciannait"]Hi,
So redwolf directed me here to ask my questions. And I hope you guys can help. I have a few phrases that I kind of patched together with my limited Irish and I'm hoping to get some gramatical direction as well as better phrasing whenever you feel something is awkward.

- Tá mé leanúnaí de na Déithe na hÉireann. (I am a follower of the Irish Gods) [the word I'm really looking for is client instead of follower but wasn't sure about how to add it there] You need "is" here, because you're saying what you ARE. Is leanúnaí déithe na hÉireann mé

- An é m’ íobairt inghlactha? (Is my sacrifice accepted?): I'm not sure I'd use the passive voice here, personally. I think I'd keep it simple and say "An nglacann tú/sibh m'íobairt?" (Do you (singular/plural) accept my sacrifice?). If you really want the passive voice, though, perhaps An bhfuil míobairt inghlactha?: Is my sacrifice acceptable?

- Go raibh beannachtai na nDéithe agus ár sinsear an ofráil. (May the Gods and Ancestors bless the offering): Go mbeannaí na déithe agus ár sinsir an ofráil: May the gods and our ancestors bless the offering.

- Fearainn de Thalamh, Muir agus Spéir. (Realms of Land, Sea and Sky) [It has been suggested to me to use "Neamh" instead of "Spéir"]: I wouldn't use "Neamh." That's pretty specifically "Heaven," and would generally be understood in the Christian sense. I think I'd say Ríocht an Talaimh, Ríocht na Mara, Ríocht na Spéire: "Realm of the Earth, Realm of the Sea, Realm of the Sky"

- Aithris paidreacha (Recitation of prayers): This can work, but given that "paidir" derives from the Latin name for the Our Father (Pater Noster), perhaps you might prefer Aithris urnaíthe

- A shinsear, go raibh maith agaibh! (Ancestors, thank you!): A shinsir, go raibh maith agaibh!

- Beannachtaí na nDéithe duit/daoibh. (Blessings of the Gods be with you.) Beannachtaí na ndéithe duit/daoibh (typically, in both English and Irish, the word for "god" is only uppercased when it is used in place of a given name, or as a title in front of a name. So you might say "The God Lugh," for example, but referring to the gods in general, you'd use lowercase. The only reason the Judeo-Christian god gets the capitalization treatment is that "God" is the only name he's got...or at least that we're allowed to use!)

- Beanú na nDéithe agus n’aindhéithe ort/oraibh. (Blessings of the Gods and the non-Gods upon you) [Is this correct modern Irish or have I botched it]: I'd use the same form as above ("Beannachtaí na ndéithe..."). Not sure about "non-gods," though, so wait for more input on that!

- Neart inár lámha, Fírinne ar ár dteanga, glaine inár gcroí (Strength in our arm, truth on our tongue, clarity in out heart) [Is this correct modern Irish or have I botched it]: Perhaps Neart inár lamha, fírinne inár mbéal, soiléireacht inár gcroí. "Teanga" can mean "language" as well as "tongue," so "béal" is bit less ambigous.

- Is é an tús gach eolas fiosrúcháin. (The beginning of all knowledge is inquiry) [Is this correct or is this one better Tosach Eolais Imchomharc] Perhaps Is é fiafraí tús gach eolais ("fiosrúcháin" is an investigation, such as what the police might do).

- Príomh-íobairt (Main Sacrifice): Looks good, but wait for more input.

- Uisce Coisrcthe (Holy Water): Close...you're just missing a letter. Uisce Coisricthe

- Áit bheannaithe (Sacred Space): I'd translate this as "Blessed place," which may be fine for your purposes. Another option: Spás (or Áit) Naofa: Holy Space/Place.

I don't have time to do any more right now, but hopefully others will weigh in, and I may be able to do a few more later. In any case, do wait for more input before committing firmly to any of these!

Redwolf (aka Audrey, aka Ailís)


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2015 1:21 am 
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Redwolf wrote:
Is leanúnaí déithe na hÉireann mé


leanúnaí deithe na hÉireann = the follower of the gods of Ireland, not: a follower

So, either:
Is mise leanúnaí deithe na hÉireann. = I am the follower of ...
or:
Is leanúnaí le deithe na hÉireann mé. = I am a follower of ...


BTW:
adhraitheoir = worshipper
dílseánach = loyal follower, votary
deisceabal = disciple


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2015 3:14 am 
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Bump. Looking for lots more input.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct 2015 2:39 pm 
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Bumping again. Would someone else please take a look at these?

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2015 7:50 am 
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ciannait wrote:
Hi,
So redwolf directed me here to ask my questions. And I hope you guys can help. I have a few phrases that I kind of patched t

- An é m’ íobairt inghlactha? (Is my sacrifice accepted?)


See Redwolf's post. However, the preposition 'le' is needed, and I'd just keep it in the passive.

An nglactar le m'íobairt? ( - although strictly speaking the present tense might not be the right one to use in Irish).



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- Neart inár lámha, Fírinne ar ár dteanga, glaine inár gcroí (Strength in our arm, truth on our tongue, clarity in out heart) [Is this correct modern Irish or have I botched it]



The original version of this, which was the motto of Pearse's 'Scoil Enna', has inár dteanga rather than ár ar dteanga, so I'd stick to the original. glaine = 'purity' in this context.

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- Is é an tús gach eolas fiosrúcháin. (The beginning of all knowledge is inquiry) [Is this correct or is this one better Tosach Eolais Imchomharc]


Tosach eolais imchomharc is an old-established maxim/proverb which means what you said. A similar proverb is Doras feasa fiafraí = 'Questioning/asking questions is the door to knowledge/We learn by asking. You should use either of those.


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- Béalaíocht (oral tradition)
-Where did you get this word? It's not in any of the dictionaries though it looks ok. The usual word is béaloideas, but it depends on the context.

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- Tá mé anseo chun onóir a thabhairt do na nDeithe (I am here to honor the Gods)
deithe, not ndeithe (in this context).

There are a couple of other typos, I think, which Redwolf may have corrected. No time to check just now.


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2015 8:13 am 
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Labhrás wrote:


Is leanúnaí le deithe na hÉireann mé. = I am a follower of ...


I would have said "... leanúnaí(/deisceabal) de chuid..", not having come across 'leanúnaí le' before. But googling gave me 'leanúnaí le Sócraitéas'.


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Oct 2015 2:39 pm 
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Bumping again.


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct 2015 4:11 am 
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Would someone else please take a look at these?
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct 2015 1:43 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
Bumping again
Osawakaten wrote:
Would someone else please take a look at these?
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Yes, there are a few things that still need correcting (and I would offer an improved version of one I gave), but
clannait hasn't shown any further interest since he/she posted almost three weeks ago. So why should we?


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