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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 11:43 pm 
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My wife and I are looking to get our rings engraved with the phrase "Bound by Love" and would like some help making sure we get it right. We don't fully trust Google translate, lol. We both would like to learn more about our joint heritage, which is what started this venture. I see a Rosetta stone DVD in our near future, lol.


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PostPosted: Fri 15 May 2015 12:11 am 
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We've had a few requests like this before, and I believe the common suggestion was

ceangailte leis an ngrá

It should work fine. You are right not to trust Google Translate. Wait for a few confirmations before going ahead with it!


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PostPosted: Fri 15 May 2015 12:38 am 
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Thank you so much for the response, I will wait on a few confirmations, as you say.


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PostPosted: Fri 15 May 2015 4:41 pm 
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Gumbi wrote:
We've had a few requests like this before, and I believe the common suggestion was

ceangailte leis an ngrá

It should work fine. You are right not to trust Google Translate. Wait for a few confirmations before going ahead with it!


I agree. That's the best approach. :good:

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PostPosted: Fri 15 May 2015 5:33 pm 
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CaoimhínSF wrote:
Gumbi wrote:
We've had a few requests like this before, and I believe the common suggestion was

ceangailte leis an ngrá

It should work fine. You are right not to trust Google Translate. Wait for a few confirmations before going ahead with it!


I agree. That's the best approach. :good:


Why the eclipsis?

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PostPosted: Fri 15 May 2015 5:36 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
CaoimhínSF wrote:
Gumbi wrote:
We've had a few requests like this before, and I believe the common suggestion was

ceangailte leis an ngrá

It should work fine. You are right not to trust Google Translate. Wait for a few confirmations before going ahead with it!


I agree. That's the best approach. :good:


Why the eclipsis?

Redwolf


leis an causes an eclipse in the standard.


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PostPosted: Sat 16 May 2015 12:33 pm 
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As a normative translation what is written above is correct, but you'd never say that in Irish really. Each language has its own cognates and idioms. To express love in Irish is no different in that sense regarding its own idioms. One of my particular favourites is..

Mo ghrá go daingean thú.

It's from an eighteenth century poem called Caoineadh Airt Uí Laoire and it expresses that notion of connection and timelessness of true love, although is rendered practically meaningless by a literal or normative translation. I would go for something that is more layered in meaning in a diplomatic and idiomatic sense rather than the literal, but the former translation is correct if you choose to use it.


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PostPosted: Sat 16 May 2015 1:24 pm 
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Rossaí wrote:
As a normative translation what is written above is correct, but you'd never say that in Irish really. Each language has its own cognates and idioms. To express love in Irish is no different in that sense regarding its own idioms. One of my particular favourites is..

Mo ghrá go daingean thú.

It's from an eighteenth century poem called Caoineadh Airt Uí Laoire and it expresses that notion of connection and timelessness of true love, although is rendered practically meaningless by a literal or normative translation. I would go for something that is more layered in meaning in a diplomatic and idiomatic sense rather than the literal, but the former translation is correct if you choose to use it.

Obviously a superior suggestion, though I would argue ceangailte leis an grá has more meaning in Irish than you seem to imply. I could have said "tríd an" but I thought that would have been too literal.


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul 2015 3:05 am 
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Nice suggestions above.

Another possibility:

Fite fuaite le chéile i ngrá "Interwoven with each other in love"

Since it is for engraving on rings perhaps just:

Fite fuaite le chéile

or

Fite fuaite i ngrá

That's if you haven't already got the rings done ...

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