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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Sat 29 Aug 2015 3:52 pm 
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Exactly! But these are the joys of learning language over the internet.

I would love it if you made a video! Or a series of them, considering the complexity of the subject matter, but that might be asking too much. Maybe two or three of you could make it together.

It is much clearer actually. It's kind of clicked a bit. I knew the vowels, but didn't know why they make such a difference to how the consonants are pronounced or what exactly the difference between a broad and slender consonant is. It'll make it way easier in the future. GRMA.


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Sat 29 Aug 2015 4:10 pm 
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I'm scribbling out a quick guide now. You might get some value out of it.

Lughaidh knows the most about Irish phonology here, I would guess, as would Lon Dubh and Breandán. I'm just giving a rough guide, but my pronunciation is good, so I think it works :)

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Sat 29 Aug 2015 4:44 pm 
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Jay Bee wrote:
I'm scribbling out a quick guide now. You might get some value out of it.

Lughaidh knows the most about Irish phonology here, I would guess, as would Lon Dubh and Breandán. I'm just giving a rough guide, but my pronunciation is good, so I think it works :)


If we could get each of them to do one, it'd be great, because we'd have (broadly) all three dialects covered.


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015 5:51 pm 
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I'm scribbling out a quick guide now. You might get some value out of it.



I'm writing a S L O W guide as it is taking days...

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015 6:44 pm 
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Jay Bee wrote:
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I'm scribbling out a quick guide now. You might get some value out of it.



I'm writing a S L O W guide as it is taking days...


:LOL: it'll probable be a LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG guide so too by the time your finished :LOL: .

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I'm familiar with Munster Irish/ Gaolainn na Mumhan (GM) and the Official Standard/an Caighdeán Oifigiúil (CO)


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015 6:59 pm 
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Yeah, it will....

An no-one will read it :rofl:

I started putting in allophones, for what reason, I don't know :facepalm:

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Fri 04 Sep 2015 7:09 pm 
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That's why videos work better. No reading involved.

I don't even know what an allophone is. :S


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Fri 04 Sep 2015 7:10 pm 
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Don't get me wrong, I love reading its just that some people don't.


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Fri 04 Sep 2015 8:55 pm 
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Elenaki wrote:

I don't even know what an allophone is. :S
Smart phone for phonetics experts.


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation video
PostPosted: Fri 04 Sep 2015 10:19 pm 
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lol

An allophone is a variant of one phoneme. If you switch from one variant to another, it doesn't change the meaning of the word. For instance, in English, if you replace the standard English r by a Scottish trilled r, the word remains the same. So standard English r and trilled r are allophones, ie. variants of the phoneme /r/.
When the word changes meaning if you replace a sound by another one, then the 2 sounds in question are "phonemes". In English, b and p are different phonemes, because "pay" and "bay" are different words.

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