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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr 2025 12:20 pm 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
Well, probably more likely after a negative. Níor stad béal Chormaic ach ag trácht ar Shéadna, Cormac did stop talking about Séadna.


C's mouth did not stop at all ...

I don't know whether there is an English idiom, in German it is: C's Mund wollte überhaupt nicht mehr aufhören, über S. zu reden.


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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr 2025 12:24 pm 
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Labhrás wrote:
djwebb2021 wrote:
Well, probably more likely after a negative. Níor stad béal Chormaic ach ag trácht ar Shéadna, Cormac did stop talking about Séadna.


C's mouth did not stop at all ...

I don't know whether there is an English idiom, in German it is: C's Mund wollte überhaupt nicht mehr aufhören, über S. zu reden.

Yes, sorry about that. Did not stop.


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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr 2025 7:56 pm 
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Dálach somebody comes from the name (Ó) Dálaigh
dá mbeifeá breoite faic mar sin dhíolfaidis thú here is used instead of because it is not mutually exclusive. Learners often compare to English 'nor' (which can only be used with negatives) and with 'or', but the truth is that can be used with positives and with negatives: aoinne a dhéanfaidh sraoth ná casachtach ná gáire ná osna ná é féin a thochas, beidh an trom trom air, and ní osclóidh mé an doras pé acu a thiocfaidh sé nó nach dtiocfaidh sé. Also, díol also means 'to pay' in Munster as well as 'to sell'
ceardchumann 'trade union'
ní dhiúltaíos di 'I didn't renounce/reject/resist her'
cinnte can be pronounced with a short i
scoil príobháideach 'private school'
olagón 'wailing'
b'fhéidir go gceapadar ná raibh a ndóthain acu I'm assuming the lenition on ceapadar is incorrect?

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Apr 2025 9:53 pm 
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ná faic could be seen as an idiom meaning "or anything (like that)".


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Apr 2025 12:55 am 
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potaráil 'pottering'
caillte 'lost', euphemistically 'dead'
garmhac 'grandson'
scarann sé daoine óna mbuíon fhéin 'it parts people from their own company'
sochraid 'body of friends'
suaiteacht 'confusion, agitation, weariness'
cian 'length of time'
crut Munster form of cruth 'shape, appearance'. More often spelt crot. chun crut éigin a chur orm fhéin 'to tidy myself up'. crot is also an alternative form to cruit 'hump', and cruit éigin a chur orm fhéin would mean 'to hunch my shoulders'
tigh na marbh 'the house of the deceased'
aibíd 'religous dress'
b'in é an taobh gur thána 'that's why/that's the reason that I came'
imirceach 'person changing abode'

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Apr 2025 5:43 pm 
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cóiste na marbh 'funeral hearse'
bheadh cupa té tigh Bhridge aici 'she'd have a cup of tea at Bridge's', literally 'she would have a cup of tea of Bridge's house'
leighte 'melted', the verb is leáigh
comhbhrón 'condolence'
an gcuimhin leat, normally would be an cuimhin leat, but the copular interrogative particle here triggers lenition by analogy to the verbal interrogative particle
bhí sé suaite 'he was disturbed'
a spéirbhean álainn á cur fén bhfód 'his beautiful wife being put under the sod (i.e. buried)'
sin é toil Dé 'that's God's will'
fial 'seemly'

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Apr 2025 6:08 pm 
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Séamus O'Neill wrote:
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cóiste na marbh 'funeral hearse'
bheadh cupa té tigh Bhridge aici 'she'd have a cup of tea at Bridge's', literally 'she would have a cup of tea of Bridge's house'
leighte 'melted', the verb is leáigh
comhbhrón 'condolence'
an gcuimhin leat, normally would be an cuimhin leat, but the copular interrogative particle here triggers lenition by analogy to the verbal interrogative particle
bhí sé suaite 'he was disturbed'
a spéirbhean álainn á cur fén bhfód 'his beautiful wife being put under the sod (i.e. buried)'
sin é toil Dé 'that's God's will'
fial 'seemly'


Molten - I'm familiar with the verbal adjective leachta. Ór leachta.


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Séamus O'Neill wrote:
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bheadh cupa té tigh Bhridge aici 'she'd have a cup of tea at Bridge's', literally 'she would have a cup of tea of Bridge's house'


‘tigh’ = dative case here, I assume, not genitive = ‘in/at B’s ‘.


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Tigh Bhridge could be in the functional genitive there if "Bridge's House tea" meant anything. What is tigh Bhridge? Does the context make it clear? If it's dative, then there would be an elided "ag" before it. But tigh is nominative and dative in Munster anyway.


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Apr 2025 6:33 am 
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Dative tigh (without a simple preposition) is used itself as a preposition, tigh X meaning "at X’s".


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