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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2015 2:13 am 
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BIB: Hello, can someone translate this childrens song for me please? I need each line translated separately, Thank you so much! :GRMA:
Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Red and
Yellow
Black and
White
They are precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2015 3:54 pm 
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NinaJones wrote:
BIB: Hello, can someone translate this childrens song for me please? I need each line translated separately, Thank you so much! :GRMA:
Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Red and
Yellow
Black and
White
They are precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world


A quick question, does the colours refer to the childrens' skin colour by any chance.

Sorry I couldn't resist; this is the first video that came up when I googled the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NUh7H7YEEk

WTF :LOL: ! ! There's surely no need to sing it that way!

Cian

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2015 6:01 pm 
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I watched the video, really weird...
I had this more in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52j9JhkheeE
I think it's more of a children's missionary song, nothing racist at all.
Just thought it would be fun to make an animated video in Irish. Thanks :)


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2015 6:19 pm 
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The song refers to skin color. Since everyone in Ireland was white, some references to racial skin coloring developed using whatever color English used, with the exceptions noted below. Here's a start on the wording:

Tá grá ag Íosa ar na páistí beaga
Jesus loves the little children

Na páistí go léir insan saol [older wording at the end chosen to make it scan better]
All the children of the world

Dearg 's Buí
Red and Yellow

Gorm 's Geal
Black and White

Tugann siad taitneamh dó
They are precious in His sight

Tá grá ag Íosa ar na páistí beaga insan saol
Jesus loves the little children of the world

Note that a black person is referred to in Irish as a fear gorm, or "blue man/person", possibly because the term fear dubh, or "black person", can be used to refer to the devil (although it can also refer to a person with dark hair). The term geal has a basic meaning of "bright", but can also be used to refer to some things which are white or light-colored, such as a white person's skin color.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2015 6:30 pm 
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Thank you so much!!


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CaoimhínSF wrote:
The song refers to skin color. Since everyone in Ireland was white, some references to racial skin coloring developed using whatever color English used, with the exceptions noted below. Here's a start on the wording:

Tá grá ag Íosa ar na páistí beaga
Jesus loves the little children

Na páistí go léir insan saol [older wording at the end chosen to make it scan better]
All the children of the world

Dearg (rua?) 's Buí
Red and Yellow

Gorm 's Geal
Black and White

Tugann siad taitneamh dó
They are precious in His sight

Tá grá ag Íosa ar na páistí beaga insan saol
Jesus loves the little children of the world

Note that a black person is referred to in Irish as a fear gorm, or "blue man/person", possibly because the term fear dubh, or "black person", can be used to refer to the devil (although it can also refer to a person with dark hair). The term geal has a basic meaning of "bright", but can also be used to refer to some things which are white or light-colored, such as a white person's skin color.

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Thank you! Is the color rua is also used for red hair?


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NinaJones wrote:
Thank you! Is the color rua is also used for red hair?


I've corrected my tugann error above. My understanding is that rua does normally refer only to red hair. FGB (the main Irish dictionary) uses dearg in referring to "red Indians", probably (as I said) due to the influence of English, but I'm no expert on that, so maybe one of the native speakers could chime in.

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CaoimhínSF wrote:
NinaJones wrote:
Thank you! Is the color rua is also used for red hair?


I've corrected my tugann error above. My understanding is that rua does normally refer only to red hair. FGB (the main Irish dictionary) uses dearg in referring to "red Indians", probably (as I said) due to the influence of English, but I'm no expert on that, so maybe one of the native speakers could chime in.


As Caoimhín was saying it is difficult to translate the various skin colours into Irish, since we don't traditional have them. If Dearg is used in FGB for red Indian, so maybe go with that one. Although, it does say its considered an offensive term:

http://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/ ... red+indian

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Thank you very much! :GRMA:


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