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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun 2015 11:50 am 
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Hi all,

Please could someone help with me with a translation? I am getting a tattoo of a Buddah quote that has been of real comfort to me, however I would like it in Irish Gaelic to pay homage to my family background. The quote is "Do not dwell in the past. Do not dream of the future. Concentrate the mind on the present moment."

I would be really grateful if someone could give me a hand. Google translate does not seem quite right for a number of reasons!

Many thanks

Lauren :D


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Laurenmc wrote:
Hi all,

Please could someone help with me with a translation? I am getting a tattoo of a Buddah quote that has been of real comfort to me, however I would like it in Irish Gaelic to pay homage to my family background. The quote is "Do not dwell in the past. Do not dream of the future. Concentrate the mind on the present moment."

I would be really grateful if someone could give me a hand. Google translate does not seem quite right for a number of reasons!

Many thanks

Lauren :D


Here's a start, but do wait for comments or corrections from others:

Ná bí ag déanamh trácht fada ar an t-am a chuaigh thart.
Do not dwell in the past.
or, for something shorter in the Irish:
Ná bíodh imní ort faoin t-am a chuaigh thart
Don't be worrying about the past.

Ná bí ag taibhreamh ar an todhchaí.
Do not dream of the future.

Cruinnigh d'intinn ar an t-am i láithair.
Concentrate the mind on the present moment.

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun 2015 10:35 pm 
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Dearmaid bheaga:
CaoimhínSF wrote:
Ná bí ag déanamh trácht fada ar an t-am a chuaigh thart.

Ná bí ag déanamh trácht fada ar an am a chuaigh thart/atá thart
CaoimhínSF wrote:
Ná bíodh imní ort faoin t-am a chuaigh thart

Ná bíodh imní ort faoin am a chuaigh/atá thart
CaoimhínSF wrote:
Cruinnigh d'intinn ar an t-am i láithair.

Cruinnigh d'intinn ar an am i láthair

Ana-dheas ar fad :D

Another possibility:
Ná santaigh an t-am atá caite ná an t-am atá chugat, ach dírigh ar an am i láthair.
(Don't * covet * the * time * that is * spent * nor * the * time * that is * to you* but * focus/direct * on * the * time * in * presence)
= Don't long for the past or the future, but focus on the present.

Maybe seo as an alternative for atá...


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun 2015 9:39 am 
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Thank you both very much for your quick response! so the version im looking at going for is;

Ná bí ag déanamh trácht fada ar an am a chuaigh thart
Ná bí ag taibhreamh ar an todhchaí.
Cruinnigh d'intinn ar an am i láthair

Thanks again :D


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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jul 2015 3:07 pm 
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I think the tenses could be simplified a bit:

Ná fan san am atá caite. "Don't dwell in the past."
Ná taibhrigh ar an am atá le teacht. "Don't dream of the future."
Cruinnigh d'intinn ar láthair na huaire. "Concentrate on the present moment."

Wait for three to agree before doing anything permanent with translations from our forum ...

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul 2015 2:29 pm 
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What needs clarifying here is the "dwell".

The original request was "dwell in" -- ie live in, abide in -- but the first few responses have reinterpreted it as "dwell on" -- worry, be preoccuppied about -- and only Breandán actually translated the original.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul 2015 6:20 pm 
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NiallBeag wrote:
What needs clarifying here is the "dwell".

The original request was "dwell in" -- ie live in, abide in -- but the first few responses have reinterpreted it as "dwell on" -- worry, be preoccuppied about -- and only Breandán actually translated the original.


In the supposed original quote, the first part, "Munca pure munca pacchato", is rendered as "let go of the past, let go of the future" (.i. no dwelling at all :LOL: )


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jul 2015 11:33 pm 
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Embarien wrote:
NiallBeag wrote:
What needs clarifying here is the "dwell".

The original request was "dwell in" -- ie live in, abide in -- but the first few responses have reinterpreted it as "dwell on" -- worry, be preoccuppied about -- and only Breandán actually translated the original.


In the supposed original quote, the first part, "Munca pure munca pacchato", is rendered as "let go of the past, let go of the future" (.i. no dwelling at all :LOL: )


:rofl:

Between Redwolf and Breandán patrolling for spelling mistakes and Niall Beag's ability to pick up on every sense of nuance. I think we can all sleep easy ;) :LOL:

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul 2015 1:45 am 
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Embarien wrote:
NiallBeag wrote:
What needs clarifying here is the "dwell".

The original request was "dwell in" -- ie live in, abide in -- but the first few responses have reinterpreted it as "dwell on" -- worry, be preoccuppied about -- and only Breandán actually translated the original.


In the supposed original quote, the first part, "Munca pure munca pacchato", is rendered as "let go of the past, let go of the future" (.i. no dwelling at all :LOL: )

It gets even better, the actual quote as found here also says "Give up the present." :LOL:

The Dhammapada: Verses and Stories wrote:
Dhammapada Verse 348
Uggasena Vatthu


Muncapure1 munca pacchato2
majjhe3 munca bhavassa paragu4
sabbattha vimuttamanaso
na punam jatijaram upehisi.

Verse 348: Give up the past, give up the future, give up the present. Having reached the end of existences, with a mind freed from all (conditioned things), you will not again undergo birth and decay.

1, 2, 3. pure, pacchato, majjhe: the reference is to attachment to the past, future and present Khandha aggregates.

4. bhavassa paragu: one who has gane to the other shore or end of existences (i.e., Nibbana); an arahat.

In that case, perhaps:

Éirigh as an am atá caite, "Give up the past,"
Éirigh as an am atá le teacht, "Give up the future,"
Éirigh as an am atá i láthair. "Give up the present."

Then we might be on the right track ... ;)


Laurenmc, you might like to reconsider the request?

There is an explanation of a possible source of the "mistake" in the "quote" here.

Thích Nhất Hạnh, another Buddhist, often talks about "living in the present moment".

Thích Nhất Hạnh wrote:
"Dwelling in the present moment I know this is the only moment.”
― Thích Nhất Hạnh, Being Peace

There are more of his quotes here.

There are other similar quotes, not necessarily by Buddhists, here.

Be sure of what you want before inking ...

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul 2015 11:31 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Embarien wrote:
NiallBeag wrote:
What needs clarifying here is the "dwell".

The original request was "dwell in" -- ie live in, abide in -- but the first few responses have reinterpreted it as "dwell on" -- worry, be preoccuppied about -- and only Breandán actually translated the original.


In the supposed original quote, the first part, "Munca pure munca pacchato", is rendered as "let go of the past, let go of the future" (.i. no dwelling at all :LOL: )

It gets even better, the actual quote as found here also says "Give up the present." :LOL:

The Dhammapada: Verses and Stories wrote:
Dhammapada Verse 348
Uggasena Vatthu


Muncapure1 munca pacchato2
majjhe3 munca bhavassa paragu4
sabbattha vimuttamanaso
na punam jatijaram upehisi.

Verse 348: Give up the past, give up the future, give up the present. Having reached the end of existences, with a mind freed from all (conditioned things), you will not again undergo birth and decay.

1, 2, 3. pure, pacchato, majjhe: the reference is to attachment to the past, future and present Khandha aggregates.

4. bhavassa paragu: one who has gane to the other shore or end of existences (i.e., Nibbana); an arahat.

In that case, perhaps:

Éirigh as an am atá caite, "Give up the past,"
Éirigh as an am atá le teacht, "Give up the future,"
Éirigh as an am atá i láthair. "Give up the present."

Then we might be on the right track ... ;)


Laurenmc, you might like to reconsider the request?

There is an explanation of a possible source of the "mistake" in the "quote" here.

Thích Nhất Hạnh, another Buddhist, often talks about "living in the present moment".

Thích Nhất Hạnh wrote:
"Dwelling in the present moment I know this is the only moment.”
― Thích Nhất Hạnh, Being Peace

There are more of his quotes here.

There are other similar quotes, not necessarily by Buddhists, here.

Be sure of what you want before inking ...



... éirigh as kind off implies that these times are some sort of challenge or action to be abandoned. Like you'd never say "Éirigh as do lón" for "give up your lunch" ;)

Would Lig/Fág/Cuir uait or something more on the lines of "leaving behind/letting past" not suit more, don't ye think?


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