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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2016 7:16 am 
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Apparently this can mean a friend or compagnon in Irish English, but in Irish there seem to be a whole list of words for it. Are there nuances between them ? Which one would be the most appropriate ? Here's the list -

cardálaí - a gossiper and a carder (apparently those whose job it was to card wool, were known for gossiping while they did their work)
reacaire - a newsmonger, a gossip - there's also the variant - reacadóir (but which dialect does it come from?)
scaothaire - windbag (but I don't think this would do)
ráflálaí - a rumour monger, a chatterer
luadrálaí - a gossip
There are also other words such as cúlchainteoir, but this means backbiter, béadánaí - slanderer, cabaire - a babbler, and clabaire - a garrulous person, but I'm not sure they'd fit.


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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016 9:42 pm 
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Luadrálaí would be most appropriate in this instance.


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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016 9:46 pm 
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franc 91 wrote:
cúlchainteoir


Do native Irish speakers actually use this word? It looks like a focal.ie word?

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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
PostPosted: Mon 13 Jun 2016 5:52 am 
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All I can say is that cúlchaint is in both the Teanglann and Foclóir dictionaries and that they have quite a few examples of it in their Phrases and Examples section -

he's a terrible gossip - fear mór cúlchainte is ea é - (it's interchangeable with béadánaí)
never mind the gossips - ná bac le lucht na cúlchainte
he was gossiping with the neighbours about her - bhí sé ag cúlchaint leis na comharsana fúithi

But this isn't quite what I'm looking for, here's the context - (in the story of the Giant's Stairs) -

.....off he marched in the cool of the evening through the Hawk's Glen to Monkstown. Here lived an old gossip of his (Tom Clancey by name)......

Robin had plenty of gossips to spread the story of his wonderful adventure - Passage, Monkstown, Ringaskiddy, Seamount, Carrigaline - the whole barony of Kerricurrihy rung with it.

so here it seems to mean not only someone who he shares gossip with but also someone with whom he is well acquainted.


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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
PostPosted: Mon 13 Jun 2016 8:49 am 
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Another word for gossiping or prattling that I have heard in Corca dhuibhne is "cabaireacht"

cloisim mo chomharsana ag siúl síos suas an bóthar agus iad ag cabaireacht

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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
PostPosted: Mon 13 Jun 2016 9:35 am 
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Cinnte tá - an bhfuil a fhios agat an rann só ?

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Is ait an créatúr tusa,
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Ach, éist leis seo, a mhadra ghlic,
Dod' chúram féin tabhair aire mhaith,
Abhaile leat, a chabaire!"


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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
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Oh tá fhios agam é, rann ó rabhláí rabhlaí, ach ní rabhas cinnte cad é an focail chabhaire go dtí anois.
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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
PostPosted: Sat 18 Jun 2016 7:10 pm 
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MarcBhig wrote:
Luadrálaí would be most appropriate in this instance.


That's a good word.


franc 91 wrote:
cardálaí - a gossiper and a carder (apparently those whose job it was to card wool, were known for gossiping while they did their work)


I wouldn't use that. I'd leave that to the original meaning.


franc 91 wrote:
reacaire - a newsmonger, a gossip


That's a good word too I think.


franc 91 wrote:
clabaire - a garrulous person


Yes, somebody who talks a lot, a big mouth (Dúin do chlab! - Shut-up!). I think we can assume somebody who talks a lot is also a gossiper.


An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
franc 91 wrote:
cúlchainteoir


Do native Irish speakers actually use this word? It looks like a focal.ie word?

Cian

It does look like it. But "cúlchaint" is used. To talk behind somebody's back. Not so sure about "cúlchainteoir" though, I think one of the other words would be more common.


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 Post subject: Re: A gossip
PostPosted: Sat 18 Jun 2016 8:28 pm 
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