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PostPosted: Wed 30 May 2012 3:37 am 
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Hi Everyone,

Can someone please tell me which word for family is the correct one for what I am looking for.
I want to include parents, siblings, husband & children.

The way I understand it is that Muintir is used in a broader sense but perhaps Teaghlach not broad enough.... Help please
Can anyone advise? I am not really wanting to "include" the more distant relatives if possible.

To explain - I am getting a tattoo "Family, Love, Loyalty." Would this be Teaghlach / Muintir, Grá, Dílseacht ? Is this written correctly? What is the pronunciation of this

Also a translation for - Family for Eternity?

Thankyou in advance :D


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PostPosted: Wed 30 May 2012 5:09 am 
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kylie.e wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Can someone please tell me which word for family is the correct one for what I am looking for.
I want to include parents, siblings, husband & children.
The way I understand it is that Muintir is used in a broader sense but perhaps Teaghlach not broad enough.... Help please
Can anyone advise? I am not really wanting to "include" the more distant relatives if possible.
To explain - I am getting a tattoo "Family, Love, Loyalty." Would this be Teaghlach / Muintir, Grá, Dílseacht ? Is this written correctly? What is the pronunciation of this
Thankyou in advance :D


Not all speakers agree precisely on this, but in Irish teaghlach usually refers to the folks in your household, while muintir usually refers to a broader category of people (depending on the context, it can mean your whole family or clan, beyond just the ones in your home, or even your tribe or your “people”). So, for what you want, I suggest Teaghlach, Grá, Dílseacht (font enlarged so that you can see the accents in the last two words clearly).

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Also a translation for - Family for Eternity?


For this you could use Teaghlach go síoraí, which is technically "Family eternally", but I think that's as close as you can get to the English words. The Irish for eternity is síoraíocht, but I don't think it would sound right in Irish to say "for eternity". That phrasing is more French ("pour l'éternité").

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PostPosted: Wed 30 May 2012 10:05 am 
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Thank you so much for your help.

I hope to see confirmations so I can get to work on the design.

Thank you again.


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PostPosted: Thu 31 May 2012 11:12 pm 
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...go buan instead of...go síoraí, maybe??


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PostPosted: Thu 31 May 2012 11:14 pm 
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Chucky Armani wrote:
...go buan instead of...go síoraí, maybe??


Yes, that's a good alternative.

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jun 2012 10:58 am 
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Could you please tell me what go buan means literally.
Also how are go siorai or go buan are pronounced?

Thanks


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jun 2012 11:54 am 
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kylie.e wrote:
Could you please tell me what go buan means literally.
Also how are go siorai or go buan are pronounced?

Thanks

go buan "constantly, always"
guh BOO-un
/gə buəN/

go síoraí "for ever, eternally"
guh SHEE-uh-ree
/gə s´i:əri:/

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