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[hr]Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher[/hr]
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

For "ramhar", either you trill the first r and you tap the last one, either you tap both. You wouldn't trill the last one.

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

It's really hard to tap the R at the end of Ramhar. I've been practicing it for the past few hours. I think I can do the beginning R, but when I tap the end, it kind of cuts the word off abruptly and makes the end of the word a very strong ERR sound. Kind of like a pirate. I'm guessing this isn't what I want.

Is the one on Forvo a good example? I can't hear much going on with either of his Rs.
http://www.forvo.com/word/ramhar/

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I'm very much a beginner learner. Don't hesitate to correct me, as long as you explain why. This is how I learn best!

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[hr]Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher[/hr]
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

No, that’s quite bad. It sounds more like he’s saying rogha than ramhar, and even then he doesn’t have a very Irish-sounding accent.

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Not a native speaker.

Always wait for at least three people to agree on a translation, especially if it’s for something permanent.

My translations are usually GU (Ulster Irish), unless CO (Standard Orthography) is requested.

This is what happens when one pronounces the r's as in English: you don't understand some words... If he had used the normal Irish r's, he would have been understood without any difficulty...

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

Well good. Because after hearing that I was afraid that I just couldn't hear the Irish Rs, which would have been a bigger problem.

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I'm very much a beginner learner. Don't hesitate to correct me, as long as you explain why. This is how I learn best!

Here's a sound file for a Conamara/Cois Fhairrge-style pronunciation (albeit by a non-native speaker):

http://www.awyr.com/ILF/saewndfaylz/T%C ... damhsa.mp3

Tá an cailín ramhar a' damhsa.
tawn KULL-een ROW-ur uh DOW-suh
/tɑ:N ka:l´i:n´ ra:wər ə dausə/

An raibh sé? (A' rabh sé?)
uh ROH sheh
/ə ro s´e/

i gcarr
ih GAWR
/i gɑ:r/

aréir
uh-RHAYRH
/ə'r´e:r´ /

Níor rith sé amach.
near ROO sheh uh-MAAKH
/N´i:r ru s´e ə' ma:x/

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[hr]Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher[/hr]
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Since we’re talking about r sounds … I’m not hearing any r at all in this one. I just hear i gcá (or i gcath, I suppose?).


/ru/?!?!?

Silly Cois Fhairrgeans!

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Not a native speaker.

Always wait for at least three people to agree on a translation, especially if it’s for something permanent.

My translations are usually GU (Ulster Irish), unless CO (Standard Orthography) is requested.

Well, I definitely flapped it - if you listen a bit closer you should hear it - but sometimes these subtleties don't come out well in recordings, even from native Gaeltacht speakers, and especially in final position:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AFRCWg_kOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo7J-XldBa8&feature=gv

It is clearly flapped in certain positions, not so clearly in others (unlike Urban where the r is never properly flapped.)

The r really needs a vowel following it to bring the distinction (as Lughaidh once said on his own pronunciation site):

http://www.awyr.com/ILF/saewndfaylz/T%C ... r_agam.mp3

Tá carr agam
taw KAWR ug-um
/tɑ: kɑ:r agəm/

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[hr]Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher[/hr]
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).