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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011 5:28 pm 
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Togha fir, a Jay Bee. I remember you sent me that way back when. :D

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011 8:00 pm 
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I'll have to listen to that sound file at home tonight. Can't wait.

But I think you all might think I'm a little more advanced than I am. I was just going to say "Go raibh maith agat" because that's one of... um... only about five things I know how to say (unless I'm butchering it, which is quite possible). And I've been practicing it. With my 3-year-old. Maybe I'll record him saying it first. :D

I'd like to give ríomhaire a whirl, but I'm going to have to cheat and use the synthesizer at http://www.abair.tcd.ie because I am not yet ready to guess on my own--despite how helpful that link from CaoimhínSF is. (I've been studying it daily. It takes a while to sink in to my thick head.)

I could guess, but I don't want to embarrass myself. :aingeal:

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011 8:03 pm 
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Jay Bee wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/?makcayzycgaozgw

Here is a file that I made years ago that gives you an idea now to pronounce the sounds, though it does not address the caol le caol, leathan le leathan rules, nor phonotactics



Oh, it's a PDF! That's great. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011 11:43 pm 
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mimerim wrote:
I'd like to give ríomhaire a whirl, but I'm going to have to cheat and use the synthesizer at http://www.abair.tcd.ie because I am not yet ready to guess on my own--despite how helpful that link from CaoimhínSF is. (I've been studying it daily. It takes a while to sink in to my thick head.)

Oh, don't use that link unless you want to study Gaoth Dobhair Irish, lovely as it is. :razz:

If you want mostly Connemara pronunciations go to Forvo (http://www.forvo.com/languages/ga/) and listen to Bríd there. If there is a word you can't find there, please let us know and we'll try to add it.

Forvo only allows words, but if you want longer phrases we can put them up here for you.

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec 2011 2:52 am 
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Togha fir, a Jay Bee. I remember you sent me that way back when.


Indeed! It also might do with some fixes, but alas I don't have the original document to hand.

Actually, there might be a job in it for my artist. A bit boring perhaps, but I could do with some copyright clean high def images

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec 2011 9:34 pm 
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mimerim wrote:
But I think you all might think I'm a little more advanced than I am. I was just going to say "Go raibh maith agat"

You should know, then, that that one’s pronounced somewhat irregularly. It’s just a common and ubiquitous expression that, naturally, it’s usually said very quickly and slurred quite a bit. Of course, this also means that there’s quite a lot of variation in the pronunciation, since you can slur different parts of it to different degrees.

In Donegal, this phrase is most commonly pronounced something relatively similar to how someone from Massachusetts would say “gutter MIDE” (stressing the second word) in quick speech. It doesn’t quite sound like that, but it’s not far removed from it—and I’m guessing that’s probably not what analysing the individual words in the phrase would have given you!

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Borrowing kk's example, the same phrase in Connemara (sometimes written go raibh maith a'd) would be "gutter mud". :LOL:

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2011 2:33 am 
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So you guys beat me to it. Forvo has "Go raibh maith agat" listed 4 times, and I've listened to them many times.

The first one doesn't specify dialect and sounds to me like "guh ruh mah haggit" (said very fast)

The one marked Connacht sounds like "gruh mahd"

I'll skip the Munster and Ulster ones for now.

In my Buntús Cainte, the male and the female speakers both say what sounds like "guh ramma haggit". This is the one I've been practicing. So here's what I'll do, if you guys can help me. I'm going to record myself saying that version of it, along with a few words from my Buntús Cainte that have that R tap. And if I'm doing it right, good. If I'm not, I'd like to fix it now at the beginning. It's going to take me a few days to practice so I'm comfortable enough with it. I just want to start off on the right foot!

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2011 2:41 am 
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Sounds like ... a sound plan. ;)

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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Tá mé ag suil leis an taifead a chloisteáil. :bolt:


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