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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2011 3:56 pm 
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I'm not totally sure how to pronounce this phrase: Beidh mo ghrá leatsa go deo.
Can someone help me with this?


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2011 4:26 pm 
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Roughly: bay moh GHraa latt-suh guh joe.

GH is a kind of gargling sound ; the r is pronounced as in Spanish or Italian (with the tip of the tongue).
Maybe someone will be happy to record it for you, because it's better to hear the sentence rather than to see a rough phonetic transcription... :)

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2011 4:59 pm 
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Here's a sound file for a Conamara/Cois Fhairrge-style pronunciation:

http://www.awyr.com/ILF/saewndfaylz/Bei ... go_deo.mp3

Beidh mo ghrá leatsa go deo.
BAY muh GHRAW L(y)AT-suh guh JOH
/b´ei mə ɣrɑ: l´æ:tsəgə d´o:/

What Lughaidh has given you is the Gaoth Dobhair pronunciation, but the differences are only slight in this case.

I am not a native speaker so you might prefer to wait for a native speaker like Bríd or Gumbi to make a file, if they have time.

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2011 6:30 pm 
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I don't think you should transcribe "leat" as "L(y)AT", with a y, because there's nothing similar to a y-sound in this word. With single slender L's, you don't hear any y-sound, unlike double slender L's.
It's almost the same L as in English "late" or "to live" etc.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2011 7:18 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
It's almost the same L as in English "late" or "to live" etc.

In British English, perhaps, but not in American English which uses a broader, darker L.

The y is in lower case and in brackets for a reason. I remove the brackets and write the Y in upper case for the slender double L.

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2011 8:11 pm 
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I pronounce it like Lughaidh has put it here. My Irish is very Northern influenced (Derry and Mid Donegal). :guiness:


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011 4:00 pm 
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Thank you all... This really helped. So I'm new here and it was really cool when I came back to read the replies and to see how into it you guys get. Thanks for your help!


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PostPosted: Sat 31 Dec 2011 9:48 pm 
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Here's my effort, even though I am a little hoarse. Just to add to the mix.
Slócht orm ach seo é m'iarracht féin ar aon chaoi.

http://www.box.com/s/lpmied8ixpcpncpavmlo


I would be more inclined to put it something like:

Is leatsa a bheidh mo ghrá go deo
or (leaving out the 'understood' 'Is')
Leatsa a bheidh mo ghrá go deo

...but that is only an opinion, and I have given it as written.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jan 2012 1:49 am 
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Lovely, a Bhraoin - it's great to hear your husky voice again. :D

Braoin wrote:
I would be more inclined to put it something like:

Is leatsa a bheidh mo ghrá go deo
or (leaving out the 'understood' 'Is')
Leatsa a bheidh mo ghrá go deo

...but that is only an opinion, and I have given it as written.

As far as an alternative translation goes, I agree, or perhaps even just Is leatsa mo ghrá go deo, and let the go deo carry the "future" meaning - but in this case we are mainly working at pronouncing the phrase that SierraBailey12 has asked us for.

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jan 2012 2:35 am 
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[broken link]

This is a file of the above. I notice a sort of 'pre velarisation' of the l in anticipation of the t and s in 'leatsa'

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Last edited by Breandán on Tue 26 Nov 2013 7:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Edited to remove broken link. Please PM me if you'd like to upload a soundfile to our server.


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