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catrionanic · **Joined:** Tue 20 Aug 2013 7:00 pm **Posts:** 21

Dia daoibh a chairde.

Beidh mé ag posadh i mí Iúil agus ba mhaith liom Prayer of the Faithful amhain as Gaeilge.

As Bearla:

"We pray for peace throughout the world, in particular, for lasting peace in Ireland."

Níl Gaeilge maithe agam, ach ceapaim "Guí le síocháin ar fud an domhain, go háirithe, le síocháin sithiúil in éireann"

Ach tá mé ag lorg aistriúcháin níos fearr! An dtig libh ciudiú liom?!

franc 91 · **Posted:** Mon 18 May 2015 1:45 pm

Shouldn't it be - in Éireann ?

catrionanic · **Joined:** Tue 20 Aug 2013 7:00 pm **Posts:** 21

Yup - I just don't know how to do a fada on a capital letter on my macbook!

galaxyrocker · **Posted:** Mon 18 May 2015 2:38 pm

franc 91 wrote:

Shouldn't it be - in Éireann ?

In Éirinn, right? ;p

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Níl Gaeilge maithe agam, ach ceapaim "Guí le síocháin ar fud an domhain, go háirithe, le síocháin sithiúil in éireann"

So I had to say it once in Irish, and one thing I distinctively remember is using guímid and ar son

So something like "Guimid ar son síochána ar fud an domhain, go háirithe ar son síochána sithiúla in Éirinn"?

Errigal · **Joined:** Fri 09 Sep 2011 2:06 pm **Posts:** 715

Guímid/guímís ar son na síochána ar fud an domhain, go háirithe ar son na síochána buaine in Éirinn

guímid = we pray; guímís = let us pray

It's Éirinn (dative), not Éireann (genitive).

EDIT: Galaxyrocker beat me to it. Buan (which changes to buaine here due to grammar rules) would be the usual way of translating "lasting" in this context. I think we need the na in the first part of the sentence, though the na in the second part could be omitted.

Labhrás · **Joined:** Sat 03 May 2014 4:01 pm **Posts:** 1970

Guímid ar son na síochána ar fud an domhain, go háirithe, ar son na síochána suthaine in Éirinn.

(de Bhaldraithe suggests: lasting peace = síocháin shuthain)

franc 91 · **Posted:** Mon 18 May 2015 2:51 pm

Of course - in Éirinn :bash:

Gumbi · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 8:09 pm **Posts:** 943

Labhrás wrote:

Guímid ar son na síochána ar fud an domhain, go háirithe, ar son na síochána suthaine in Éirinn.

(de Bhaldraithe suggests: lasting peace = síocháin shuthain)

Very nice! I was going to suggest something similar. Do you think removing the article specifically in the the second half (ar son síochána suthaine Éireann) is appropriate? I was going to suggest this, as the first have is more abstract, referring to worldwide peace (ie peace in general), whereas the second part is more particular.

It's a minor point, but I'm wondering what ye think? Either way your suggestion works IMO, I'm just giving some input!

Edit: Or perhaps... ar son síochána suthaine na hÉireann

Errigal · **Joined:** Fri 09 Sep 2011 2:06 pm **Posts:** 715

Gumbi wrote:

Labhrás wrote:

Guímid ar son na síochána ar fud an domhain, go háirithe, ar son na síochána suthaine in Éirinn.

(de Bhaldraithe suggests: lasting peace = síocháin shuthain)

Very nice! I was going to suggest something similar. Do you think removing the article specifically in the the second half (ar son síochána suthaine Éireann) is appropriate? I was going to suggest this, as the first have is more abstract, referring to worldwide peace (ie peace in general), whereas the second part is more particular.

It's a minor point, but I'm wondering what ye think? Either way your suggestion works IMO, I'm just giving some input!

Edit: Or perhaps... ar son síochána suthaine na hÉireann

I'm hurt.

Was there something wrong with mine?

If you want to pray for "the lasting peace of Ireland", it would have to be "ar son síocáin bhuan/shuthain na hÉireann" (double genitive rule). And the article would normally be used in this context.

Lughaidh · **Joined:** Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2436

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it would have to be "ar son síocáin bhuan/shuthain na hÉireann" (double genitive rule). And the article would normally be used in this context.

ar son sHíocHáin bhuan na hÉireann

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