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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2015 8:40 am 
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The word is - éard. In the dictionary it says -

éard - combined form of é rud used pronominally with copula.
(example) Is éard a deir sé (go) - what he says is (that)

and here's the sentence -

Is éard atá sa leabhrán seo, .......

I don't understand what this means here.


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2015 9:09 am 
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franc 91 wrote:
The word is - éard. In the dictionary it says -

éard - combined form of é rud used pronominally with copula.
(example) Is éard a deir sé (go) - what he says is (that)

and here's the sentence -

Is éard atá sa leabhrán seo, .......

I don't understand what this means here.


There's no difference to the first example:

Is é rud a deir sé (go) - What he says is (that)
Is é rud atá sa leabhrán seo, ... - What there is in this booklet, is ....


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2015 9:40 am 
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Go raibh maith agat a chara.

So in fact what this expression means, is more than simply - what he says. It's far wider than that. That's what I couldn't understand. Could you give me any other examples as I feel that it isn't explained sufficiently in the dictionary?
For example how would I say? -

What I want to say is.....

What I understand (of it) is.....

or - This is what I want to say - This is what I understand (of it)


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2015 10:21 am 
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franc 91 wrote:
Go raibh maith agat a chara.

So in fact what this expression means, is more than simply - what he says. It's far wider than that. That's what I couldn't understand. Could you give me any other examples as I feel that it isn't explained sufficiently in the dictionary?
For example how would I say? -

(A) What I want to say is.....

(B) What I understand (of it) is.....

or - This is what I want to say - This is what I understand (of it)


(A) 'Séard atá i gceist agam ná...

(A) 'Séard atáim ag iarraidh a rá ná / 'séard 'tháim dh'iarraidh a rá ná (GM)

(A) 'Séard atáim uaim a rá ná


(B) 'Séard a thuig mé (de) ná

'S denotes Is (n chopail)

'Séard literally means means 'the thing (that)/ it is the thing (that)' Is éard (Is é rud) = 'Séard ; 'séard adúirt Labhrás duit ;).

http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fgb/%C3%A9ard

The best way to get your head around it is 'séard is just an extended form of the copula, Is é, combined with the word rud. And its used exactly the same way.

Cian

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