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 Post subject: Vocative for aintín
PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2015 4:52 am 
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I'm trying to figure out the vocative for "aunt", and I'm also wondering if it's natural in Irish to address an aunt in this way. In English, I don't think it is. I'd never say, "Aunt, would you please pass the salt?" I'd always use my aunt's name. "Aunt Beth, would you please pass the salt?"

So, I guess that's two questions. :)

1. What's the vocative for aintín?
2. Is it natural to address someone as aintín without using her name as well?

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 Post subject: Re: Vocative for aintín
PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2015 6:40 am 
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Well, it's fourth declension so the vocative is the same as the nominative. Thus, a aintín.


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 Post subject: Re: Vocative for aintín
PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2015 1:19 pm 
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Here's an example of it being used -

www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/auntie


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 Post subject: Re: Vocative for aintín
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I think it's more usual (and definitely more traditional in Gaeltacht areas) to simply address (or refer to) your aunt or uncle by her or his first name. If you need to be more specific, you'd say something like "deartháir m'athar" or "deirfiúir mo mháthar."

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 Post subject: Re: Vocative for aintín
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Redwolf wrote:
I think it's more usual (and definitely more traditional in Gaeltacht areas) to simply address (or refer to) your aunt or uncle by her or his first name. If you need to be more specific, you'd say something like "deartháir m'athar" or "deirfiúir mo mháthar."

Redwolf


That's correct. I always called my aunts and uncles by their first names.


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 Post subject: Re: Vocative for aintín
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All very helpful. Thanks, everyone!!

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 Post subject: Re: Vocative for aintín
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
That's correct. I always called my aunts and uncles by their first names.

Hi Bríd,

And could you tell me if you included the vocative particle when you did?

Would you say "Síle" or "a Shíle"?
Would you say "Seán" or "a Sheáin?

Briain.


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 Post subject: Re: Vocative for aintín
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Briain786 wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
That's correct. I always called my aunts and uncles by their first names.

Hi Bríd,

And could you tell me if you included the vocative particle when you did?

Would you say "Síle" or "a Shíle"?
Would you say "Seán" or "a Sheáin?

Briain.



Yes. When it was required. No different to speaking to anybody else.


Redwolf wrote:
I think it's more usual (and definitely more traditional in Gaeltacht areas) to simply address (or refer to) your aunt or uncle by her or his first name. If you need to be more specific, you'd say something like "deartháir m'athar" or "deirfiúir mo mháthar."

Redwolf

Like Redwolf say "deartháir m'athar" or "deirfiúir mo mháthar" is more traditional, but aint and uncail are well established in Irish now too.

"Sí Máire Chóilín m'aint" if I was talking to somebody who didn't know them personally I'd say "Tá m'uncail san aspicle" etc.


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