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 Post subject: Re: Neologism
PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2014 4:16 pm 
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All I am going to say here is that we have already said his name more than three times, so be careful lest we feed the trolls.


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 Post subject: Re: Neologism
PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2014 5:07 pm 
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Again thanks all - I had not considered the troll feeding element of this question. Still curious though. Is their a good dictionary with full etymologies available. I haven't been able to find one that I can use but I am interested in the origins of words - it makes it easier for me to learn the language.


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 Post subject: Re: Neologism
PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2014 5:49 pm 
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They say here that there isn't one yet -
https://www.uni-due.de/DI/Dictionaries

I can give you these two examples - the word for a book in Old Irish would seem to derive from Latin - lebor - which is now of course - leabhar, and then there's - báille, which in English means a bailiff, but I'm pretty sure comes from the Norman French - bailli.


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 Post subject: Re: Neologism
PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2014 6:46 pm 
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John Pickering wrote:
Again thanks all - I had not considered the troll feeding element of this question. Still curious though. Is their a good dictionary with full etymologies available. I haven't been able to find one that I can use but I am interested in the origins of words - it makes it easier for me to learn the language.


There's a good etymological dictionary for Scottish Gaelic, which traces most things back to Old Irish, Norman French, Norse, or other roots, also referencing cognates in Irish and other Celtic languages, as well as Germanic and other Indo-European (IE) languages, sometimes discussing IE roots. It can be very useful for the etymology of modern Irish words as well, if you're aware of the fairly consistent spelling differences between the two languages. It's Alexander MacBain's Etymological Dictionary of Scottish-Gaelic. It was originally published in the 19th century, but an updated version was put out in 1998 by Hippocrene Books. I got my copy online (at Amazon, I think).

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 Post subject: Re: Neologism
PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2014 10:28 pm 
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McBain's dictionary is online too:
http://www.ceantar.org/Dicts/MB2/

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 Post subject: Re: Neologism
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RobertKaucher wrote:
All I am going to say here is that we have already said his name more than three times, so be careful lest we feed the trolls.


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Ah well...he may show up, but if he does we can kick his arse.

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 Post subject: Re: Neologism
PostPosted: Fri 10 Oct 2014 6:09 am 
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CaoimhínSF wrote:
Interestingly, without the offending "i" which violates the caol le caol spelling rule, or the somewhat oddly placed fada, in Scottish Gaelic aireanach is an adjective meaning "agricultural", and aireannach is a noun meaning "beginning". Both words may be somewhat archaic (I only found them in older dictionaries), but his creative etymology does seem quite faulty.

My first thought was àrainneachd (environment). The root element "àrainn" being some form of place/site/area -- the Sabhal Mòr uses it in the names of their two "campuses" (which are a three minute walk from each other, but on Skye, that qualifies as separate campuses).

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