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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug 2014 5:04 pm 
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I've tried doing this before (important words and some less important but related in semantic fields), but I've lost the material before so I'm going to instead post one thing per day or 5 a week. People can help if they wish.

Here are the constellations. A lot of them are not what traditional Irish speakers would have used. If any of the Munster lads has anything to add, please do on that account

I've broken them up into times of the year, which some astronomers do. The Zodiac can be gleaned from this too.


Constellations Of Autumn/Réaltbhuíonacha an Fhómhair
Andromeda, daughter of Cepheus An Andraiméide
Aries, The Ram An Reithe
Auriga, The Charioteer an tAra
Camelopardalis, The Giraffe an Sioráf
Cassiopeia, the Queen of Etheopia Caiseoipé
Cetus, The Whale An Míol Mór
The Swan An Eala, Cros an Tuaiscirt
Lepus, The Hare An Giorria
Perseus, The Hero Peirséas
Pisces, The Fish na hÉisc
The Sculptor An Dealbhóir
Taurus, The Bull An Tarbh
Triangulum, The Triangle an Triantán


The Constellations Of Winter/ Réaltbhuíonacha an Gheimhridh
Cancer, The Crab An Portán
Canis Major, The Big Dog An Madra Mór
Canis Minor, The Little Dog An Madra Beag
Crater, The Cup An Cupán
Gemini, The Twins An Cúpla
Hydra, The Water Monster An Phéist Uisce
Leo, The Lion An Leon
Leo Minor, The Little Lion
Lynx, The Lynx An Lincse
Monoceros, The Unicorn an tAonbheannach
Orion, The Hunter An Bodach, Oiríon
Sextans, The Sextant An Seiseamhán


Constellations Of Spring/ Réaltbhuíonacha an Earraigh
Bootes, The Herdsman An tAoire, Bóitéas
Canes Venatici, The Hunting Dogs Na Madraí Fiaigh
Coma Berenices, Berenice's Hair Folt Bheirnicé
Corvus, The Crow An Préachán
Draco, The Dragon An Dragan
Hercules, the Hero Earcail
Libra, The Scales an Mheá
Lupus, The Wolf An Faolchú
Ophiuchus, The Serpent Bearer Fear na bPéisteanna
Scorpius, The Scorpion An Scairp
Serpens Caput, The Serpent's Head Ceann na Péiste
Serpens Cauda, The Serpent's Tail Eireaball na Péiste
Ursa Major, The Great Bear An Béar Mór
Ursa Minor The Little Bear An Béar Beag
Virgo, The Virgin An Mhaighdean


Constellations Of Summer/ Réaltbhuíonacha an Shamhraidh
Aquarius, The Water Bearer Iompróir an Uisce
Aquila, The Eagle an tIolar
Capricornus, The Sea Goat An Gabhar
Cepheus, a King of Ethiopia Ceiféas
Corona Australis, The Southern Crown Coróin an Deiscirt
Coronas Borealis, The Northern Crown Coróin an Tuaiscirt
Cygnus, The Swan Cros an Tuaiscirt
Delphinus, The Dolphin An Deilf
Equuleus, The Little Horse An Capall Beag
Lacerta, The Lizard An Laghairt
Lyra, The Harp An Lir
Pegasus, The Flying Horse Peigeasas, Capall Eitilte
Piscis Austrinus, The Southern Fish Iasc an Deiscirt
Sagitta, The Arrow An tSaighead
Sagittarius, The Archer An Saighdeoir
Scutum, The Shield an Sciath (f)
Vulpecula, The Little Fox An Sionnach

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug 2014 5:24 pm 
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The Zodiac, alphabetical and longitudinal/newspaper (30° slice) sequences:

Aries, The Ram An Reithe
Pisces, The Fish na hÉisc
Taurus, The Bull An Tarbh
Cancer, The Crab An Portán
Gemini, The Twins An Cúpla
Leo, The Lion An Leon
Libra, The Scales an Mheá
Scorpius, The Scorpion An Scairp
Virgo, The Virgin An Mhaighdean
Aquarius, The Water Bearer Iompróir an Uisce
Capricornus, The Sea Goat An Gabhar
Sagittarius, The Archer An Saighdeoir


Aries, The Ram An Reithe
Taurus, The Bull An Tarbh
Gemini, The Twins An Cúpla
Cancer, The Crab An Portán
Leo, The Lion An Leon
Virgo, The Virgin An Mhaighdean
Libra, The Scales an Mheá
Scorpius, The Scorpion An Scairp
Sagittarius, The Archer An Saighdeoir
Capricornus, The Sea Goat An Gabhar
Aquarius, The Water Bearer Iompróir an Uisce
Pisces, The Fish na hÉisc

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2014 9:20 pm 
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Astronomy/ Réalteolaíocht

The comos/ An cosmas
The galaxy, galaxies -An réaltra, na réaltraí
Constellation -An réaltbhuíon (bain)
The Milky Way -Bealach na Bó Finne, Claí Mór na Réaltaí, an Láir Bhán
Nebula, nebulae -An réaltnéal, réaltnéil
Star cluster -An réaltbhraisle
Star -An réalt


buíon (bain) =band, troup, company, gang

Well known stars/ réaltaí cáiliúla
Polaris, The North Star -An Réalta Thuaidh
Canis Majoris -An Madra Mór
Sirius , The Dog Star -Réalta an Mhadra
Barnard's Star -Réalta Barnard
Castor -Castór
(As English)
Aldebaran
Altair
Arcturus
Antares
Bellatrix
Vega
Rigel
Proxi(ma) Centauri
Alpha Centauri/ Toliman
Canopus
Deneb
Polaris Australis


Well-known clusters/ braislí cáiliúla
Pleiades, the Seven Sisters -An Phléadach, an tÉillín, an Streoillín, an Tréidín, Pleiades
Beehive cluster -An Choirceog, Prescepe
Hyades -Hyades


Tréad = flock; Éillín = brood, cluth; Streoille =long, irregular strip, long straggling thing

Well-known galaxies/ Réaltbhuíona cáiliúla
Milky Way -Bealach na Bó Finne, Claí Mór na Réaltaí, an Láir Bhán
Andromeda -An Réaltbhuíon Andraiméide
Large Magellanic Cloud, Nubecula Major -Scamall Mór Magellan
Helix -An Réaltbhuíon Helix
Pinwheel -An Réaltbhuíon Pinwheel
Ring -An Réaltbhuíon Ring
Running Chicken -An Réaltbhuíon Running Chicken
Whirlpool -An Réaltbhuíon Whirlpool


Famous nebulae/ Réaltnéail cáiliúla
Crab Nebula -Réaltnéal an Phortáin
Eagle -Réaltnéal an Iolair
Triffid -Réaltnéal an Trípháirteach
Butterfly Nebula -Réaltnéal Butterfly
Clown Nebula -Réaltnéal Clown
Helix Nebula -Réaltnéal Helix
Hydra -Réaltnéal Hydra
Pacman -Réaltnéal Pacman

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2014 9:24 pm 
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Are these the words the Bards and others would have had for the stars in the Middle Ages? It's cool to see them.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2014 9:30 pm 
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I got most from focal.ie but I do know that there were (are?) trad names for more of them. Of course, the other galaxies can only be modern.

I had a list of more terms but the backup drive with that failed and so as I'm sick of doing things again and again I'm going to find what I can and clean up and add new bits that I've found to be important based on my own projects (for example how time, space, co-ordinates, measure and number are all related)

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2014 10:00 pm 
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I recall reading somewhere (Beresford Ellis, I think) that most of the old texts dealing with astrology/astronomy have never really been studied, and also Ireland has like other countries followed variously its own stuff, then Graeco-Roman and Arabic in turn, so who knows how layered the material is

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2014 10:45 pm 
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An tSlat - Orion's Sword

An Bear Mór is a bit formal, direct from the Latin.
We called it the Plough - An Céachta.

Somebody added load of them to Forvo recently too.


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Aug 2014 8:16 am 
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Oh, very good! I can see a few I didn't have.

It would be nice to have a full list. Of course, if a more complete everyday set of words is made, older and scientific versions can be added later

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Tá ainmneacha aisteacha ag Gaedhil na hAlban agus Oileán Mhanann ar roinnt des na pláinéid:

Mearcair = Curain / Crean (GOM)
Véineas = An Rìbhinn (nó Bhèineas) (GA); Badlag / Baytnag / Heney (GOM)
Mars = Corg (nó Màrs) (GA)
Iúpatar = Am Bliogh (nó Iupatar) (GA)

N'fheadar cá bhfuarthas iad ar aon chor.

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GRMA! Téann focail as faisean. Cén fath, cá bhfios.

Beidh focail nua agam fresin innuibh

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