I want to say 'a painting by' someone; is it péintéireacht ó dhuine? Réamhfhocal eile? I think prepositions are one of the hardest parts of a language...... The wrong prepositions are used by native English speakers all the time so it's not confined to one language ar chor ar bith.....

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or maybe it's because in their dialect one doesn't use the same prepositions as in standard English!

Btw, in Irish I think you'd say "pioctúr DE dhuine ineacht" and also "pioctúr duine ineacht" without preposition.
I'm not sure péinteoireacht can be used to talk about A painting, to me péinteoireacht is rather the art of painting and not the picture you make, which is called "pioctúr" (or pictiúr etc).

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

Grma! Actually that was the other thing I meant to ask in my post - is a painting actually 'péinteoireacht' as I have only ever heard it in the context you used it, but then I saw it somewhere to mean a physical painting so presumed I just hadn't come across it. I should have realised it looked more verby than nouny - I can sense the grammar geeks shuddering at my technical terminology! So pictiúr d'ealaíontóir..... it is then. Lughaidh, a chara.

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verby than nouny....I love it!

Two more and I'm ready to ink!

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Péintéireacht "the act of painting"

If I saw pictiúir de dhuine I would assume that the duine was the subject of the painting.

pictiúr de bhean le Van Gogh "a picture of a woman by Van Gogh"

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I'm with Breandán on this, "le" is what I've always seen with books, songs, tv programs etc.

"Mein Kampf" le Breandán (mar shampla)

I noticed that Ros na Rún is "Scríofa ag . . ." not "Scríofa le . . ." (can't actually remember who writes it). Is it the word "scríofa" that makes the difference here? Can you say "scríofa le"?

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Táim ag foghlaim fós. Fáilte roimh gach aon cheartúchán.

ag is used to denote agent nouns with past participles, e.g., tá sé ite agam "I've eaten it" literally "it has been eaten by me".

Pictiúr de bhean péinteáilte ag Da Vinci. "a picture of a woman painted by Da Vinci"

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

This raises the question: How would you differentiate a "picture" from a "painting"? Most artists I know would collapse in horror if you referred to their paintings as "pictures" -- not only because of the comparison with photographs, but also because paintings often aren't "pictures" of anything in particular.

Mick: I think Ros na Rún uses different script writers...I know that I've often noted that today's writer is a diffferent person from, say, last week's. My guess is they have a writing staff.

Redwolf

griangraf is used to refer to a picture only, whereas, pictiú(i)r can mean a painting or a picture. Or you could call it saothar ealaíne, though you could also call griangrafanna saothair ealaíne . The Irish must be all philistines and not the civilised kind!

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