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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013 12:21 am 
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Ambaist...Éistigí leis an nuacht ar uairibh agus beidh an freagra agaibh gan teibíocht...

Ten below zero...deich gcéim faoin reophointe. The reophointe is always used when discussing the weather. Lúide a deich is a Maths saying meaning minus ten..as in twenty minus ten- fiche lúide a deich.
Reophointe is always used on RTE 1, RnaG, TG4...try not to complicate things guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013 1:39 am 
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Ambaist...Éistigí leis an nuacht ar uairibh agus beidh an freagra agaibh gan teibíocht...

Ten below zero...deich gcéim faoin reophointe. The reophointe is always used when discussing the weather. Lúide a deich is a Maths saying meaning minus ten..as in twenty minus ten- fiche lúide a deich.
Reophointe is always used on RTE 1, RnaG, TG4...try not to complicate things guys.


Yes, but you're talking about Ireland, which uses Celcius, at which "zero" is the freezing point (reophointe). The person for whom I'm trying to find an answer to the question lives in the U.S., which uses Fahrenheit, at which "zero" is considerably BELOW the freezing point. We say something is "below freezing" when it's lower than 32 degrees Fahrenheit...we mean something quite different when we say something is 10 below zero.

I suspect that TG4, RnaG, etc., if they found it necessary to report on U.S. weather, would convert it to Celcius, since they are addressing an Irish audience, but when two people who live in the States are discussing the weather, that isn't going to happen. Hence the specific need for "below zero" (which Bríd has supplied twice now...GRMA, a Bhríd!) and not just "below freezing."

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013 4:01 am 
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Redwolf wrote:
Someone asked this question on Eoin's Bitey Shamrock forum, and I'm not finding an easy answer in Baldy, so I figured I'd ask here. How does one express negative numbers in Irish?

For example, in English I might say "It's 10 degrees outside, but it feels like -10." Or "3 - 5 = -3"

GRMA,

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minus ten in celsius is "deich gcéim faoin reophointe"

minus ten in Canada is, I would have to say 'lúide a deich" Why don't ye translate to European scales. They are generally easier.


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013 4:05 am 
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I thought they had metric and Celsius in Canada.

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013 4:13 am 
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Haigh a Bhríd, conas tánn tú ó shin? :D


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
I thought they had metric and Celsius in Canada.


Yes, they do. Canada is fully metric/Celsius. I'm pretty sure the U.S. is the only Fahrenheit holdout on this continent, if not in the entire world. God help us.

Rossaí, much as I wish we had the metric system here, we don't, so when we're speaking Irish in a U.S. context, we really do need to make the distinction.

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
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Haigh a Bhríd, conas tánn tú ó shin? :D



Haigh a Rossaí, tá sé go deas thú a fheiceáil ar ais aríst. :wave:

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
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Redwolf wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
I thought they had metric and Celsius in Canada.


Yes, they do. Canada is fully metric/Celsius. I'm pretty sure the U.S. is the only Fahrenheit holdout on this continent, if not in the entire world. God help us.

Rossaí, much as I wish we had the metric system here, we don't, so when we're speaking Irish in a U.S. context, we really do need to make the distinction.

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
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Rossaí wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Someone asked this question on Eoin's Bitey Shamrock forum, and I'm not finding an easy answer in Baldy, so I figured I'd ask here. How does one express negative numbers in Irish?

For example, in English I might say "It's 10 degrees outside, but it feels like -10." Or "3 - 5 = -3"

GRMA,

Redwolf


minus ten in celsius is "deich gcéim faoin reophointe"

minus ten in Canada is, I would have to say 'lúide a deich" Why don't ye translate to European scales. They are generally easier.

I do not believe that anyone other than a mathematician, speaking in a theoretical context, uses negative numbers.
Either in English, or any other language.
They are an artificial theoretical concept, and you would be as well, using the Greek, Arabic, or Latin import for such a theoretical concept.
I recall, that when we, in UK still used Fahrenheit, we referred to the concept "deich gcéim faoin reophointe" as ten degrees of frost.
That might translate better into an Irish idiom.
How would you say 'ten kilos of potatoes' ?
Could you say something like 'Deich gcéim sioc' ?

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
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Deghebh wrote:
Rossaí wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Someone asked this question on Eoin's Bitey Shamrock forum, and I'm not finding an easy answer in Baldy, so I figured I'd ask here. How does one express negative numbers in Irish?

For example, in English I might say "It's 10 degrees outside, but it feels like -10." Or "3 - 5 = -3"

GRMA,

Redwolf


minus ten in celsius is "deich gcéim faoin reophointe"

minus ten in Canada is, I would have to say 'lúide a deich" Why don't ye translate to European scales. They are generally easier.

I do not believe that anyone other than a mathematician, speaking in a theoretical context, uses negative numbers.
Either in English, or any other language.
They are an artificial theoretical concept, and you would be as well, using the Greek, Arabic, or Latin import for such a theoretical concept.
I recall, that when we, in UK still used Fahrenheit, we referred to the concept "deich gcéim faoin reophointe" as ten degrees of frost.
That might translate better into an Irish idiom.
How would you say 'ten kilos of potatoes' ?
Could you say something like 'Deich gcéim sioc' ?


Spend a few minutes listening to any weather broadcast in the northern U.S., and you'll hear plenty of negative numbers. Why do you constantly feel the need to pontificate about things you know nothing about? :rolleyes:

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