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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 9:23 am 
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To eliminate the confusion over Celsius and Fahrenheit I would probably say "Tá sé a deich níos lú".
(slightly Bearlachas I know)


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 9:26 am 
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To eliminate the confusion over Celsius and Fahrenheit I would say "Tá sé a deich níos lú".
(slightly Béarlachas I know)

Sorry for the double post, I see that the gremlin is alive and well!


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 10:09 am 
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Redwolf wrote:
Someone asked this question on Eoin's Bitey Shamrock forum, and I'm not finding an easy answer in Baldy, so I figured I'd ask here. How does one express negative numbers in Irish?

For example, in English I might say "It's 10 degrees outside, but it feels like -10." Or "3 - 5 = -3"

Our maths teacher used lúide and móide for minus and plus.
That is the only context I've ever heard those words.

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míneas a deich gcéim Celsius = -10 degrees Celsius, AFAIK

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And Wingléacht has that too.


But in the case of temperature when we say "subzero" we always mean below freezing point. As subzero means nothing in Fahrenheit. So I think saying reophointe /pointe reo is correct for that. -6C = sé chéim faoin reophoinnte. Or use "náid".

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 11:40 am 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Someone asked this question on Eoin's Bitey Shamrock forum, and I'm not finding an easy answer in Baldy, so I figured I'd ask here. How does one express negative numbers in Irish?

For example, in English I might say "It's 10 degrees outside, but it feels like -10." Or "3 - 5 = -3"

Our maths teacher used lúide and móide for minus and plus.
That is the only context I've ever heard those words.

Scooby wrote:
míneas a deich gcéim Celsius = -10 degrees Celsius, AFAIK

:yes:
And Wingléacht has that too.


But in the case of temperature when we say "subzero" we always mean below freezing point. As subzero means nothing in Fahrenheit. So I think saying reophointe /pointe reo is correct for that. -6C = sé chéim faoin reophoinnte. Or use "náid".



I too did Maths (and Chemistry and French....) through Irish. Our teacher also used lúide and móide but for subtract/take away and plus (add).

But when referring to a stand-alone negative figure in both Maths and Science we used míneas. I haven't watched the weather on TV in Irish in a while, but I'd expect to hear míneas used at times and ...faoin reophointe used also.

I've never heard pointe reo used, however more correct it is. Words like reophointe may be artificial, but over time they become used and accepted. Personally, I hate words like doladhroichead (toll bridge) and scáileastát (ghost estate) but I've known and heard the word reophointe for over 40 years now and other versions sound odd to me for that reason.


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 3:10 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
But in the case of temperature when we say "subzero" we always mean below freezing point. As subzero means nothing in Fahrenheit.

"Subzero" in Fahrenheit means the same thing as in Celsius, namely a temperature below 0° on the scale. Granted, subzero Fahrenheit temperatures are something you probably have little if any reason to mention in Ireland, but even with global warming they're still something we have need to talk about here in the Upper Midwest.


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 3:23 pm 
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Domhnaillín Breac wrote:
"Subzero" in Fahrenheit means the same thing as in Celsius, namely a temperature below 0° on the scale.



Subzero in Fahrenheit is insignificant, I should've said.

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 3:33 pm 
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Domhnaillín Breac wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
But in the case of temperature when we say "subzero" we always mean below freezing point. As subzero means nothing in Fahrenheit.

"Subzero" in Fahrenheit means the same thing as in Celsius, namely a temperature below 0° on the scale. Granted, subzero Fahrenheit temperatures are something you probably have little if any reason to mention in Ireland, but even with global warming they're still something we have need to talk about here in the Upper Midwest.


Yeah...when you live in colder climes, "subzero" actually means a lot. It's amazing just how much colder temperatures below zero Fahrenheit are than simply "below freezing."

If nothing else, they're terms we hear all the time on TV weathercasts: "windchill of -10" (well, not "we" in central California, but when I was growing up in Eastern Washington, "below zero" Fahrenheit was definitely something we took note of!)

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013 3:35 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Domhnaillín Breac wrote:
"Subzero" in Fahrenheit means the same thing as in Celsius, namely a temperature below 0° on the scale.

Subzero in Fahrenheit is insignificant, I should've said.

DAS, do the Irish do the same crazy thing as the Brits, namely use Fahrenheit in summer and Celsius in winter so as to always portray their situation as more miserable than it is?


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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
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Redwolf wrote:
Domhnaillín Breac wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
But in the case of temperature when we say "subzero" we always mean below freezing point. As subzero means nothing in Fahrenheit.

"Subzero" in Fahrenheit means the same thing as in Celsius, namely a temperature below 0° on the scale. Granted, subzero Fahrenheit temperatures are something you probably have little if any reason to mention in Ireland, but even with global warming they're still something we have need to talk about here in the Upper Midwest.


Yeah...when you live in colder climes, "subzero" actually means a lot. It's amazing just how much colder temperatures below zero Fahrenheit are than simply "below freezing."


I see what you guys mean now. I'm a bit slow. :LOL:



Domhnaillín Breac wrote:
do the Irish do the same crazy thing as the Brits, namely use Fahrenheit in summer and Celsius in winter so as to always portray their situation as more miserable than it is?
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I use Celsius all the time. We changed over from Fahrenheit in the 70s. AFAIK everybody does the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Negative numbers
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Domhnaillín Breac wrote:
DAS, do the Irish do the same crazy thing as the Brits, namely use Fahrenheit in summer and Celsius in winter so as to always portray their situation as more miserable than it is?
We don't do that. We always use Celsius. We confine our misery to traffic, the state of the economy, the state of the language, w(b)ankers, corrupt politicians and rain. Otherwise, we're a cheerful bunch! :wave:

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