"On to Victory" as in a cavalry charge

jwrourke · **Joined:** Fri 28 Dec 2012 1:24 am **Posts:** 5

Hello forum members:
Would "Ar Chun Bua" suffice as a reasonable short translation of "On to Victory" like as in a cavalry charge or would something else be more appropriate?

Thanks

Breandán · **Posted:** Fri 28 Dec 2012 2:11 am

jwrourke wrote:

Hello forum members:
Would "Ar Chun Bua" suffice as a reasonable short translation of "On to Victory" like as in a cavalry charge or would something else be more appropriate?

Thanks

Hi, are you a member of the old forum? If so, well met. In either case, welcome to ILF. :wave:

I don't think Ar chun bua quite works. I think it would need to be:

Ar aghaidh chun bua

But it might be possible to shorten that to chun bua?

Await correction or confirmation ...

An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

What about:

"Beir Bua"

Seize victory

jwrourke · **Joined:** Fri 28 Dec 2012 1:24 am **Posts:** 5

Thank you for the warm welcome to the forum and quick replies to my translation query.

will "Chun Bua" (literally "To Victory") actually work? If so that's pretty good - short and sweet

Mick · **Joined:** Fri 18 Nov 2011 2:27 pm **Posts:** 622

I'm with An Cionnfhaolach, Beir Bua is just as short and sweet, and sounds much more natural.

I was almost going to say that Beir Bua doesn't work for a cavalry charge, because Beir is singular. But I've heard Beir Bua! being shouted at hurling and football teams. Is that because you treat the whole team as one entity rather than a collection of individuals? :dhera:

Breandán · **Posted:** Sat 29 Dec 2012 2:08 am

Beir bua to me is more a set phrase meaning "Good luck", in and outside games. It's also one way to sign off a letter, isn't it?

If this is a kind of admonishment by a Captain of a troop, perhaps:

Beirimis bua "Let's win" "We'll win"

Does anyone know the miltary term for "Charge!" ?

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2985

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

What about:

"Beir Bua"

Seize victory

That has a nice ring to it. And idiomatic too.

"Chun Bua" - works too.

That's if you want it short. Otherwise the longer sentence will make it clearer.

jwrourke · **Joined:** Fri 28 Dec 2012 1:24 am **Posts:** 5

Breandán wrote:

Beir bua to me is more a set phrase meaning "Good luck", in and outside games. It's also one way to sign off a letter, isn't it?

If this is a kind of admonishment by a Captain of a troop, perhaps:

Beirimis bua "Let's win" "We'll win"

Does anyone know the miltary term for "Charge!" ?

This was my feeling also that Beir bua perhaps wasn't strong enough for a charge

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2985

Charge - What about? =

Ruathar !
or
Ar aghaidh linn !

("charge" means "attack" rather than "let us win") Edited :bash:

CaoimhínSF · **Joined:** Sun 04 Sep 2011 11:02 pm **Posts:** 1583

The Irish Defence Forces have a web site where they list their commands, which are apparently always given in Irish. They don't have "charge" listed, but they do have Ar Aghaidh for "Forward". "Quick March" is Go Mear Máirseáil, but that's much more sedate and organized than a charge.

FGB has ruathar as the noun for a military "charge", but does not appear to indicate the verbal command to charge. What might make sense is something like: Déan ruathar, ar aghaidh! "Charge ["Make a Charge"], forward!" Of course, there's also the traditional shout of Abú! ("Onward!").

I just checked out the Scottish Gaelic, and they use Thoir Ionnsaigh ("Give/Make an Attack") for "Charge!", or else the more traditional Rach Sìos!, which would be something like "Go Down [at them]!". The Irish equivalents would, I suppose, be Tabhair Ionsaí! and Téigh Síos!.

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