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 Post subject: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012 2:04 pm 
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I need something typical for closing a letter or a conversation, a saying or proverb if there is such, but specific to something that you'd hear said at the end of a conversation or writing.

I also need the phrase, "God bless you."

As always, thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012 2:48 pm 
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The typical way to close a formal letter in Irish (roughly equivalent to the English "sincerely yours") is "is mise, le meas, [your name]" ("I am, with respect, [name]"). Some writers will shorten this to simply "le meas" ("with respect").

For informal writing, from what I've seen, there are as many ways of closing a letter as you might think of in English. I've seen "le grá" ("with love"), "feicfidh mé ar ball thú" ("see you later"), and even plain old "slán" (goodbye).

I'm not aware of a particular proverb that would be used to close a letter (or a conversation). Do you have an English equivalent in mind?

As far as "God bless you" goes, one way would be "Go mbeannaí Dia thú" ("May God bless you"). If you're writing to more than one person, you'd say "Go mbeannaí Dia sibh."

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012 5:05 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
The typical way to close a formal letter in Irish (roughly equivalent to the English "sincerely yours") is "is mise, le meas, [your name]" ("I am, with respect, [name]"). Some writers will shorten this to simply "le meas" ("with respect").

:yes:

Another formal way is Le dea-mhéin "With kind regards"

Some people also use Le dea-ghuí or Le gach dea-ghuí or Beir beannacht uaim, all meaning "Best wishes".

Redwolf wrote:
For informal writing, from what I've seen, there are as many ways of closing a letter as you might think of in English. I've seen "le grá" ("with love"), "feicfidh mé ar ball thú" ("see you later"), and even plain old "slán" (goodbye).

Also slán go fóill "Bye for now"

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As far as "God bless you" goes, one way would be "Go mbeannaí Dia thú" ("May God bless you"). If you're writing to more than one person, you'd say "Go mbeannaí Dia sibh."

I'm not sure that's wrong at all, but for some reason I keep wanting to change thú to dhuit. Although FGB makes a distinction between duine a bheannú "to call a greeting on so." and beannú do dhuine "to greet so.", it still translates Go mbeannaí Dia duit as "God bless you". :dhera:

An alternative way to say "God bless you" is Beannacht Dé ort. "God's blessing upon you."

Yet another, and one I've also seen on letters, is Bail ó Dhia ort "God bless you" or "God prosper you".

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012 7:25 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
The typical way to close a formal letter in Irish (roughly equivalent to the English "sincerely yours") is "is mise, le meas, [your name]" ("I am, with respect, [name]"). Some writers will shorten this to simply "le meas" ("with respect").

For informal writing, from what I've seen, there are as many ways of closing a letter as you might think of in English. I've seen "le grá" ("with love"), "feicfidh mé ar ball thú" ("see you later"), and even plain old "slán" (goodbye).

I'm not aware of a particular proverb that would be used to close a letter (or a conversation). Do you have an English equivalent in mind?

As far as "God bless you" goes, one way would be "Go mbeannaí Dia thú" ("May God bless you"). If you're writing to more than one person, you'd say "Go mbeannaí Dia sibh."

Wait for more input, please.

Redwolf


Thanks for all of this and to Breandán. No, no proverb in mind. I simply didn't know if there was one. I will give it some thought and see what pops into my brain and then repost.

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012 8:23 pm 
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Sometimes people simply finish with 'Beannacht'.

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012 10:28 pm 
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Go mbeannaí Dia duit as "God bless you".


probably because both sentences are used in the same context, but they aren't direct translations.
It's abit like translating "Hello" by "Dia duit". "Dia duit" doesn't mean "hello" (but "God for you") but it's considered as an equivalent because both are used to greet someone...

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012 6:15 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Bail ó Dhia ort "God bless you"

That is a common greeting in Conamara. Especially when you see somebody working.


Breandán wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
As far as "God bless you" goes, one way would be "Go mbeannaí Dia thú" ("May God bless you"). If you're writing to more than one person, you'd say "Go mbeannaí Dia sibh."

I'm not sure that's wrong at all, but for some reason I keep wanting to change thú to dhuit. Although FGB makes a distinction between duine a bheannú "to call a greeting on so." and beannú do dhuine "to greet so.", it still translates Go mbeannaí Dia duit as "God bless you".


"Go mbeannaí Dia thú" / "Go mbeannaí Dia dhuit" - I think both are correct ("duit" more common in Conamara)

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 Post subject: Re: Irish Closings
PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012 8:45 am 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Bail ó Dhia ort "God bless you"

That is a common greeting in Conamara. Especially when you see somebody working.


Ah, that's good to know! I hear bail ó Dhia ar an obair quite often, but it's good to know that it's a greeting that can imply work without mentioning work!

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