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 Post subject: OT: Telling time
PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul 2012 6:13 am 
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This is only a tiny bit off-topic...do kids in Ireland still learn to read an analog clock? If I were to write an article on "Telling time in Irish" for kids, will I be an anachronism if I base the lesson on a 12-hour clock?

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul 2012 7:49 am 
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I am sure they do. Saoirse introduced us to a book in Irish for doing exactly that some time ago.

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul 2012 8:53 am 
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Nope They still learn on one of those paper analog clocks that you can move the hands on . I just helped my cousin with the a chlogs last week :)


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul 2012 11:27 am 
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Breandán wrote:
I am sure they do. Saoirse introduced us to a book in Irish for doing exactly that some time ago.
http://www.omahonys.ie/catalog/c%C3%A9n ... 26159.html

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul 2012 11:40 am 
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Saoirse wrote:
Breandán wrote:
I am sure they do. Saoirse introduced us to a book in Irish for doing exactly that some time ago.
http://www.omahonys.ie/catalog/c%C3%A9n ... 26159.html

"Cén t-am é?" le Siobhain Grogan ? Go hiontach ! :good:

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I have a problem with that kind of clock (as is the case with lots of 'official' teaching aids) and so I often find myself making my own. I much prefer to have the numbers in written form - so that they naturally fit in with all the vocabulary and expressions that are associated with the activity of reading the time. I also make my own clock dominos and clock memory games with a similar presentation. Around the clock face are arranged at the appropriate places are placed - leath tar éis, ceathrú go dtí etc.


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franc 91 wrote:
I have a problem with that kind of clock (as is the case with lots of 'official' teaching aids) and so I often find myself making my own. I much prefer to have the numbers in written form - so that they naturally fit in with all the vocabulary and expressions that are associated with the activity of reading the time. I also make my own clock dominos and clock memory games with a similar presentation. Around the clock face are arranged at the appropriate places are placed - leath tar éis, ceathrú go dtí etc.
That book has the time written in words and numbers. The child puts the hands on the big clock where she thinks they should go (according to the little story) and then she can 'check' that she's correct against the picture under the flap which is in analogue and digital form. Each page adds another few sentences to the story and changes the time so the hands on the clock need to be changed each time to match. Making other games to help learn the time is a great idea as well. The more resources which are practical and hands on, the better.

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Saoirse wrote:
franc 91 wrote:
I have a problem with that kind of clock (as is the case with lots of 'official' teaching aids) and so I often find myself making my own. I much prefer to have the numbers in written form - so that they naturally fit in with all the vocabulary and expressions that are associated with the activity of reading the time. I also make my own clock dominos and clock memory games with a similar presentation. Around the clock face are arranged at the appropriate places are placed - leath tar éis, ceathrú go dtí etc.
That book has the time written in words and numbers. The child puts the hands on the big clock where she thinks they should go (according to the little story) and then she can 'check' that she's correct against the picture under the flap which is in analogue and digital form. Each page adds another few sentences to the story and changes the time so the hands on the clock need to be changed each time to match. Making other games to help learn the time is a great idea as well. The more resources which are practical and hands on, the better.


One game that might help with the terminology, at least, is "Midnight." That's a game we played when we were kids...you probably had a version of it yourselves. One kid is "it." The other kids line up on the other side of the room or yard from "it" and say "what time is it?" as they move a step closer. The kid who is "it "gives a time. This repeats over and over again, as the line of kids creeps ever closer. When "it" decides that they're close enough for him to catch one of them (or decides that the element of surprise is on his side) he yells "MIDNIGHT!" All the other kids have to make it back to the other side of the room or yard to be safe...the one "it" tags is the new "it."

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Redwolf wrote:
One game that might help with the terminology, at least, is "Midnight." That's a game we played when we were kids...you probably had a version of it yourselves. One kid is "it." The other kids line up on the other side of the room or yard from "it" and say "what time is it?" as they move a step closer. The kid who is "it "gives a time. This repeats over and over again, as the line of kids creeps ever closer. When "it" decides that they're close enough for him to catch one of them (or decides that the element of surprise is on his side) he yells "MIDNIGHT!" All the other kids have to make it back to the other side of the room or yard to be safe...the one "it" tags is the new "it."


We played a game like that in the schoolyard when I was very young. I don't remember what it was called. Other cultures too have it. This if from one of my favourite films The Orphanage -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2butfPWy ... re=related

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Redwolf wrote:
One game that might help with the terminology, at least, is "Midnight." That's a game we played when we were kids...you probably had a version of it yourselves. One kid is "it." The other kids line up on the other side of the room or yard from "it" and say "what time is it?" as they move a step closer. The kid who is "it "gives a time. This repeats over and over again, as the line of kids creeps ever closer. When "it" decides that they're close enough for him to catch one of them (or decides that the element of surprise is on his side) he yells "MIDNIGHT!" All the other kids have to make it back to the other side of the room or yard to be safe...the one "it" tags is the new "it."
Our version of that was called "What's the time, Mr. Wolf?" and the "catch" word was "Dinnertime!".

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