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We want to name our new home Rock Farm translated into Scottish Gaelic. According to Google Translate this is Tuathana Na Creige. If this is correct how is it pronounced. If not, what is the correct name and how is it pronounced?


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Sorry, Tuathanas Na Creige


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MollyP wrote:
We want to name our new home Rock Farm translated into Scottish Gaelic. According to Google Translate this is Tuathana Na Creige. If this is correct how is it pronounced. If not, what is the correct name and how is it pronounced?


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Sorry, Tuathanas Na Creige


Yes, that works, or you could use Tuathanas Na Carraige, which could be seen as referring more specifically to a certain rock, as opposed to "rock" in the sense of rocky material (what you had can also refer to a specific rock, though, depending on the context).

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PostPosted: Fri 17 May 2019 11:45 pm 
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Pronunciation (roughly):

Tuathanas na Creige = Too-uh-huh-nuss nuh ktheck-eh

Tuathanas na Carraige = Too-uh-huh-nuss nuh cah-reck-eh

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Lughaidh wrote:
Pronunciation (roughly):

Tuathanas na Creige = Too-uh-huh-nuss nuh ktheck-eh

Tuathanas na Carraige = Too-uh-huh-nuss nuh cah-reck-eh


Hi Lughaidh,

Do you have any idea of where in Scotland the slender R is pronounced 'th', as in your transcription here? I've noticed it before with some speakers but never was able to assign it to specific area.

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I heard it from speakers from Lewis, Harris, North Uist... (maybe other places)

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I'm no expert, but from what I've read, it was once uncommon on the mainland, while found in several places in the Hebrides, but now that a majority of native speakers are from the Hebrides and the Lewis dialect, in particular, has become so influential, it is becoming (or has become) more or less "standard", except among a few native speakers on the mainland who preserve their older pronunciation.

If you can locate the old Akerbeltz online pronunciation guide (the link I had is now broken), they have some maps which show the distribution of certain sounds. I was interested to see that, like the "r" sound, preaspiration in words like mac and the sibilant sound in words like àird also seem to have come originally from the Isles and/or the west coast, presumably due to Norse influence, and then spread eastward.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2019 12:57 pm 
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If I remember well, in the dialects spoken in southwestern Scotland, there was no preaspiration before c, t, p.

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