gortahork wrote:
Thanks very much, Labhrás. Always thoughtful and very helpful replies.
So the pronunciation would have changed not just based on where you were in the country, but also over time as the language evolved?
I read in several places that "Corraidhín" was a diminutive of the first name "Corradh," as you pointed out, and also that corradh meant "spear" but I can't find that definition on Teanglann or anywhere else (besides "Curran history" entries on name meaning websites). Have you heard the word "corradh" being used for a type of spear?
No.
corradh is used for an addition (corradh le 20 bliain = more than 20 years)
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Do you know of any resources for students of Irish wanting to understand the origins of letter combinations and spelling choices (like using a "dh" for a "y" sound when it was put onto the Latin alphabet, when the Latin alphabet already has a "Y" in it)? Or "mh" for "v" etc.?
No, I don’t.
Languages use different orthographies because of different sounds, different sound changes, etc. And different history.
Latin didn't use y for /j/. It used i or j. Y was a used in words of Greek orign only, originally for a /y/-sound. Using y for /j/ is an English whim
Back to Irish:
Putting an h to a letter to show sound changes is a quite clever method.
The model for this was Late Latin spellings
ch (for /x/),
ph (for /f/) and
th (for /θ/), used in Greek words. /x/, /f/ and /θ/ are altered forms of /k/, /p/, /t/, spelled c, p, t. (Originally it was indeed only an aspiration, a /h/-sound combined with /k/, /p/, /t/ -> /k
h/, /p
h/, /t
h/ but in Late Latin and Modern Greek these became really /x/, /f/, /θ/)
Old Irish had the same sounds, so spellings
ch, ph, th were used.
Using the same ortography (letter+h) for the same alteration in b, d, g, f, m, s called "lenition" (
bh, dh, gh, fh, mh, sh) was a later step. First they wrote b, d, g, m in Old Irish without any sign of alteration, so "b" could be /b/ or /v/.
But they already wrote "ḟ" and "ṡ" to show that /f/ and /s/ disappeared (ḟ is silent, ṡ only a breath). Then they wrote
ḃ, ḋ, ġ, ṁ, too, and even
ċ, ṗ, ṫ. The dot˙became interchangable with the letter h. So, bh, dh, gh, fh, mh, sh, developed.
Sounds changed.
"dh" isn't a /ð/ anymore (but /j/ or /ɣ/ or even silent).
"mh" isn't much different from "bh" (except for nasalizing vowels in its vicinity - but even this disappears) But etymologically, a "mh" once was an /m/ prior to lenition, and "bh" was a /b/.