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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012 10:26 pm 
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Coming home on the métro this evening, it made me think of this - the train stopped at a certain métro station (in Paris) and the name is Irish (and even as Gaeilge originally) so can you guess what it is and what the connection with both Dublin and London it has?


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012 1:07 am 
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I have no idea Franc.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012 1:35 am 
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Ranelagh?

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012 12:56 pm 
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Yes it's Ranelagh/Raghnallach - here they pronounce the 'g' at the end - of course Ranelagh is now a suburb of Dublin and where incidentally the first gaelscoil Scoil Bhríde opened in 1917. One of the Lords Ranelagh took the name of the village as his own and built a residence and garden there, as they did in Chelsea, complete with a very grand rotunda for concerts. Later on the garden in London became a pleasure garden open to the public and as the name Ranelagh was so well-known, it was 'borrowed' for another garden in Paris. It's still there today, which is why we have a métro station in Paris with an Irish name. Sin é
PS I forgot to ask but what does Raghnallach mean?


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012 6:22 pm 
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The old records at logainm.ie include Post Office notes like this:

http://www.logainm.ie/Iomhanna/88/po57179-80_3.JPG

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"The Jones family took their title from Ranelagh in Co. Wicklow, and though they lived for a time in Dublin, they moved in the early 18th Century to London where they built themselves a house at Chelsea. This naturally became known as Ranelagh House, and was later turned into the famous Ranelagh Gardens (1762) .... In 1766 one Hollister [...] started a pleasure-garden at Cullenswood, just outside Dublin, and called it Ranelagh Gardens. So the name of Ranelagh returned to Ireland."

I couldn't find a "Ranelagh" in Co. Wicklow, but there is a Kilranelagh, which is Cill Rannaileach in modern Irish.

Here's something taken randomly off the web:
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The Raghnal was a clan that held sway in the mid-1500's in the Wicklow Mountains and what is now South Dublin. In Gaelic, 'Raghnallach' means Raghnal's place.

There are other references to Raghnull and the like in the Post Office notes that tend to support "the Church of the Clan of Raghnall" as the derivation of Kilranelagh, at least.

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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