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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2018 6:48 am 
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Hello! Looking for a reliable SL translation. I am a novelist with a prominent Irish character dated in the 18th. Century. If you would be so kind as to translate the following into Irish Gaelic appropriate for the 1700's. SL ? I'm American and VERY new to this. Thank you so much!

"Never have I yearned for anything more."
"Old soul."
"Pulse of my heart."
"Live free or die!"
"So say we all!"
"He who is not strong must be clever."
"A good run is better than a bad stand."


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2018 2:54 pm 
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Melony wrote:
Hello! Looking for a reliable SL translation. I am a novelist with a prominent Irish character dated in the 18th. Century. If you would be so kind as to translate the following into Irish Gaelic appropriate for the 1700's. SL ? I'm American and VERY new to this. Thank you so much!

"Never have I yearned for anything more."
"Old soul."
"Pulse of my heart."
"Live free or die!"
"So say we all!"
"He who is not strong must be clever."
"A good run is better than a bad stand."


A few of these are traditional Irish proverbs (seanfhocail), and one is a well-known Irish endearment:

Pulse of my heart: cuisle mo chroí. If it's direct address, a chuisle mo chroí. Often shortened to a chuisle or a chroí.

He/the one who is not strong must be clever: An té nach bhfuil láidir, ní foláir dó a bheith glic (this particular seanfhocal is gender-neutral...if you want it to be masculine specifically, I'd replace "an te" with "an fear")

A good run is better than a bad stand: Is fearr rith maith ná droch-sheasamh.

Old soul: seananam

Wait for more.

Redwolf

(Edited to fix spelling error)


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2018 8:12 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
He/the one who is not strong must be clever: An te nach bhfuil láidir, ní foláir dó a bheith glic (this particular seanfhocal is gender-neutral...if you want it to be masculine specifically, I'd replace "an te" with "an fear")


An ndéarfaí "é nach bhfuil láidir..."?


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2018 9:32 pm 
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Redwolf~
Thank you! I do have a few Irish proverbs that I will have Caelan quote but a few of these I made up. If they are familiar that is pure coincidence. Makes me happy I'm on the right track with my character though!


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2018 9:40 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
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He/the one who is not strong must be clever: An te nach bhfuil láidir, ní foláir dó a bheith glic


An té ... (with accent)


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Ní raibh mé riamh ag tnúth le haon rud eile
I was never yearning for any other thing


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Labhrás wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Melony wrote:
He/the one who is not strong must be clever: An te nach bhfuil láidir, ní foláir dó a bheith glic


An té ... (with accent)


GRMA...I'm always forgetting that!

Redwolf


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2018 5:30 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
Labhrás wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Melony wrote:
He/the one who is not strong must be clever: An te nach bhfuil láidir, ní foláir dó a bheith glic


An té ... (with accent)


GRMA...I'm always forgetting that!

Redwolf

... in the "heat" or the moment. :darklaugh:

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect.
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Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Mon 08 Oct 2018 1:59 pm 
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Melony wrote:
Redwolf~
Thank you! I do have a few Irish proverbs that I will have Caelan quote but a few of these I made up. If they are familiar that is pure coincidence. Makes me happy I'm on the right track with my character though!


I'm curious as to where you came up with that name. It isn't an Irish name (it violates a major Irish spelling rule).

Redwolf


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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2018 7:17 am 
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I Have no idea why there should be a wrong spelling. People name their children whatever they want, making spelling unique is a part of that. However, I got Caelan from Cael, who was a great warrior of the Fianna in Irish mythology. I researched many sources but am not too concerned since my novel is fiction anyway. These warriors were supposedly fierce and could shift into wolves. They were the werewolves (or wolfmen) of Osraige/ Ossory. In my research, I also found such spellings: Ua Caellaighe, Ua Faelain, etc. (I didn't add the accents but they did have them).


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