Hi all, I would greatly appreciate some help in translating this phrase:

'Hope Dies Last'

I used some other translation sites and the closest I could come to was:

Faigheann an dóchas bás ag a' deireadh

However it seemed that the implication in this translation was that hope 'dies in the end', more cryptic and negative than my interpretation of the English as being more like 'as long there is hope we will continue on'. Am I accurate in this interpretation of the Irish translation? Does that translation sound cryptic and negative to those on the forum who speak & write Irish? If so are there any suggestions on translations of 'Hope dies last' that speak more to the positive interpretation of this phrase? Is it to complicated by the idea that in Irish one 'gets death' as opposed to 'dies' and is there a difference in the Irish between 'last' and 'in the end'?
Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks a million!

I think you'd need to restructure it to something like this:

Is é an dóchas is déanaí bás a fháil
It's hope which is the last to die

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thanks a lot for the help CaoimhínSF.

Can anyone corroborate this translation?

thanks in advance!

Or as in Munster
Is é an dóchas is deireanaí bás a fháil

For reference, that was Gumbi's suggestion from IGTF. Here's the link to that thread..

http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/tr ... st#p777866

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Which I stand by

Gumbi's might be interpreted as "Hope dies at the end" meaning "after all else", but I am not sure the inference is that clear.

Also, bás a fháil is something that happens to humans and animals, but dul in éag "die, expire" can happen also to inanimate objects.

I would say something like:

Is é an dóchas an rud is deireanaí a dhul in éag.

Await confirmation or correction ...

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I'd think a relative clause is needed in Irish.

Is é an dóchas (an rud) is déanaí/deireanaí a théann in éag

luke,
1 an rud can be omitted.
2 Either déanaí or deireanaí. Same difference.
3 Alternative, shorter versions for théann in éag: éagann (which I gave before for the same request on ITGF), chailltear = is lost/dies.

Actually I think I prefer chailltear now.

Yes, you're right the direct relative is better:

Is é an dóchas is deireanaí a théann in éag.

The other proposed versions in full:

Is é an dóchas is deireanaí a éagann.

Is é an dóchas is deireanaí a chailltear.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Alternatively (and Ulsterly, perhaps), the old special relative form of téann can be used:

Is é an dóchas is deireanaí a théid in éag

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Not a native speaker.

Always wait for at least three people to agree on a translation, especially if it’s for something permanent.

My translations are usually GU (Ulster Irish), unless CO (Standard Orthography) is requested.